R. Docks 154 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 Lurcher330,bulljack,digger and francolin,you're missing the whole point of my post,no body gives a sh*t what you hunt or kill accidently, JUST DO'NT POST IT UP FOR ALL TO SEE as it reflects poorly on us all when read by the power's that be,think before you post up ammunition for the anti-hunt lobbyists as even irelands right to hunt will change eventually,20yrs ago we all laughed at the thought of banning hunting with dogs in britain but now its with us,don't hurry your own demise,WM Spot on. As for the other stuff; well, I've got nothing to prove. You lot carry on talking about killing cats, and in no time at all your words will come back to bite you on the arse. Quote Link to post
alimac 882 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 BBB,I had my share of doing stuff I should'nt in the past and once on the scent I like most cannot call them off especially if they have them on for a hat,feral cats living on rabbits are a pain on your permission and I do shoot them if asked by the landowner but given the choice or if I know the farm cats are living in a particular barn I will avoid it or keep the dogs in control,prevention by a bit of thought is better than an argument with an angry owner over a dead cat,my dogs are encouraged to hunt the right quarry and see no mileage in cat killing for fun or to impress my mates as young lads do thinking it will make their dog hard or a better fox dog,I've seen dogs that kill cats jib on fox and bigger stuff in the past and so do not see it as a badge for courage or in any way a true test for a dog,actively promoting it on an open forum will only speed up our already eroding rights to hunt legal quarry,if we all at least try to hunt within our fragile legal framework we may get a few more years without the grey area's left being closed by people deliberately hunting anything they think is fair game,putting an irish flag next to your avatar will not stop the laws from being implemented by an already overzealous RSPCA or police force,I work within the law at all times (barring accidents) and hope that one day we will get back some of our sport that Tony Blair banned just to appease the trade unions with no knowledge of the countryside,cruelty allegations and irresponsible acts will only hurry our own demise and ban hunting altogether,it is sad that most on this thread have chose to endorse this lads post and made us all look the poorer for it,The mods should of pulled this immediately in my opinion,think before you post,WM "think before you post" and admitting to being present when certain things being jibbed on is what you would call a bright move? classic 2 Quote Link to post
hok boi 40 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 How do you identify a feral cat as opposed to someone's pet? I understand that the law may be different in Ireland, but in the UK cats are property and their owners cannot be held liable for them. In other words, cats can go where they please, and do as they please. It's too late to find out that your dogs have killed someone's pet after they've killed it. Better to be safe than sorry IMO. the killing of cats is not illegal(at least shooting them anyway) feral cats that is. a cat is classed as feral if it does not wear a collar, i used to have to do cat poulation control in my old job working as a pest control tech for one of the worlds largest pest control companies. and as digger said.......... it was an accident. and .............. i would be very impressed if i saw a lurcher in full steam pulling off what it was chasing just because someone told it to, spaniels are a totally different game. jmo chris 1 Quote Link to post
R. Docks 154 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 the killing of cats is not illegal(at least shooting them anyway) feral cats that is. a cat is classed as feral if it does not wear a collar, i used to have to do cat poulation control in my old job working as a pest control tech for one of the worlds largest pest control companies. and as digger said.......... it was an accident. and .............. i would be very impressed if i saw a lurcher in full steam pulling off what it was chasing just because someone told it to, spaniels are a totally different game. jmo chris That is absolute rubbish, sorry. To suggest that any cat not wearing a collar is legally feral is total and utter nonesense, and posting that here to misinform people is irresponsible. You may have been a technician working for a national pest control company, but you obviously know feck all about UK law. If you want to actually quote the law which says that any cat not wearing a collar is feral, then feel free. I happen to know that you will not be able to because you are talking crap. Oh, and I've worked for two of the biggest pest control companies in the UK, but not as a technician There seem to be lots of people willing to come on here and publicly defend what the OP has admitted was an accident; but have you all seriously considered how the general public at large will see these posts? The last thing that the working terrier fraternity need right now is yet more bad publicity, yet you are all giving it to them on a plate. Don't forget that anyone can read this forum without even going to the trouble of logging in. Engage brains people. Quote Link to post
hok boi 40 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 well if you think its wrong, then you better inform the bpca. and if you have been in the pest game then you would have been involved in controlling cats, and if you did, then how did you differentiate between pet and feral???? simples, no collar, pfffft Quote Link to post
R. Docks 154 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 well if you think its wrong, then you better inform the bpca. and if you have been in the pest game then you would have been involved in controlling cats, and if you did, then how did you differentiate between pet and feral???? simples, no collar, pfffft I used to sit on the servicing commitee of the BPCA, and had a hand in writing some of their codes of practice. At no point in time have the BPCA suggested that any cat found without a collar could be classified as feral. The code of practice (which is what a judge would use to base his judgement on if a defence of this nature was used) says that feral cats should be cage trapped so that they can be checked for microchips or other forms of identification prior to humane euthanasia by a qualified vetinary surgeon. Perhaps you would lke to try again? Quote Link to post
hok boi 40 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 sure you do lol Quote Link to post
R. Docks 154 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 sure you do lol I do what? Quote Link to post
hok boi 40 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) have worked for....... and sat on............. and tbh you should know what your talking about before you put your 2 bobs worth in(running dogs) how many rabbits have your spaniels caught??????? none!!!!!!1 because they have no prey drive, and thats what its all about in this game, not retreiving something thats been shot and is already dead, and im assuming that prey drive is undesireable with spaniels, but it is not a subject that i am particularly well educated on (spaniels) therefore i will keep my opinions to myself until i do know better. am off for my dinner, toodle poops lol Edited February 27, 2012 by hok boi Quote Link to post
R. Docks 154 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 have worked for....... and sat on............. and tbh you should know what your talking about before you put your 2 bobs worth in(running dogs) how many rabbits have your spaniels caught??????? none!!!!!!1 because they have no prey drive, and thats what its all about in this game, not retreiving something thats been shot and is already dead, and im assuming that prey drive is undesireable with spaniels, but it is not a subject that i am particularly well educated on (spaniels) therefore i will keep my opinions to myself until i do know better. am off for my dinner, toodle poops lol Why are you banging on about spaniels? I don't own any spaniels. Currently I have 2 terriers and 2 labradors. In the past I've kept running dogs and lots of terriers. What the hell any of that has to do with the original subject I do not know. Perhaps you are just trying to deflect attention from your obvious lack of knowledge about UK pest control law? Quote Link to post
1Wally 204 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 have worked for....... and sat on............. and tbh you should know what your talking about before you put your 2 bobs worth in(running dogs) how many rabbits have your spaniels caught??????? none!!!!!!1 because they have no prey drive, and thats what its all about in this game, not retreiving something thats been shot and is already dead, and im assuming that prey drive is undesireable with spaniels, but it is not a subject that i am particularly well educated on (spaniels) therefore i will keep my opinions to myself until i do know better. am off for my dinner, toodle poops lol Why are you banging on about spaniels? I don't own any spaniels. Currently I have 2 terriers and 2 labradors. In the past I've kept running dogs and lots of terriers. What the hell any of that has to do with the original subject I do not know. Perhaps you are just trying to deflect attention from your obvious lack of knowledge about UK pest control law? Think youv been mixed up with RubyTex mate. Quote Link to post
hok boi 40 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 aaaaah oops lol, dont see too many labs having prey drive either lol. ta ta Quote Link to post
hok boi 40 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 have worked for....... and sat on............. and tbh you should know what your talking about before you put your 2 bobs worth in(running dogs) how many rabbits have your spaniels caught??????? none!!!!!!1 because they have no prey drive, and thats what its all about in this game, not retreiving something thats been shot and is already dead, and im assuming that prey drive is undesireable with spaniels, but it is not a subject that i am particularly well educated on (spaniels) therefore i will keep my opinions to myself until i do know better. am off for my dinner, toodle poops lol Why are you banging on about spaniels? I don't own any spaniels. Currently I have 2 terriers and 2 labradors. In the past I've kept running dogs and lots of terriers. What the hell any of that has to do with the original subject I do not know. Perhaps you are just trying to deflect attention from your obvious lack of knowledge about UK pest control law? before i go............. i suppose your supposed lurchers had 100% recall when on quarry, nah..... i didnt think so either lol Quote Link to post
R. Docks 154 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 You suppose an awful lot. I'm not taking this any further as I suspect that the number printed inside you shoes is higher than your IQ. Oh, and I stand by my earlier assertion; you know feck all about UK pest control law. Quote Link to post
hok boi 40 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 well hows about this for an "assertation" your an "i think i know it all" tool. and you know feck all about running dogs. and another "assertation"(this is gonna be my new word for today lol) is that your a keyboard warrior that has nothing better to do with his time other than badger a guy who openly admitted an accident/unfortunatel event and turned this thread into a rant that was completely irrelevant to the original post, if you tried to do that with most of the lurcher guys around here, and probably on this site too, you would have come away wishing you hadnt have opened your mouth. must be wonderful to have a bash at folk from behind a keyboard eh? and i would like to apologise to digger for ranting on his post. not much more to say on the subject me thinks Quote Link to post
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