Ancient sighthounds

[2Painless2btrue 11]

My point is that the EARLIEST depictions of dogs are of Running dogs! Look at the Egyptians, who by the way also depict domesticated hunting Cheetahs. These cats are the feline equivalent of the Greyhound ie cats with canine characteristics! Seems likely to me that wild Cheetahs are actually feral domesticated stock. Ask yourself What if I'm right? Mind blowing possibilities! If I'm right, then other domestic dogs may actually decended from wild outcrosses to the original running dogs..... the opposite of evolution if you ask me! BTW Darwins second book was called 'The Descent of Man'. Maybe WE are in decline too?

[skycat 6,173]

No, the earliest depictions of dogs, seen in cave paintings, are of dogs accompanying humans out hunting. They are not necessarily what we would call running dogs, in other words, tall, long legged sighthounds. Of course they weren't terriers or mastiffs as the optimum size and weight, together with leg length and head size, would have evolved naturally to produce a canine which was small enough to subsist on insects and carrion, but who, with the strength of pack numbers, would have been able to run down and kill larger prey. Just like the Cape Hunting Dog of today.

 

The Africanis http://www.africanis.co.za/history.htm are the indigenous dog of Africa. There is a variation in size, though the basic type would appear to remain quite similar to the 'cur dog' the world over. Like the Dingo for example. Like I said, it doesn't take a great leap to breed the longer legged types together to get a true 'running' dog.

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

i have an open mind but the theory of evolution to me is far from certain ie how did an elephants trunk get from a nose to almost a limb rivaling human movement and uses ? surely if it gradually grew that way what use was it when it couldnt move or do half as much ? if we did evolve from apes why are there no similar what you could call human ape hybrids around evolving now? now you could say no place for them with humans dominating but its only been last 10000 years humans have dominated the planet. countless other animal types/quirks whatever that to get where they are is a huge jump in evolution that anything in the middle dont make sense or have any use

[DogFox123 1,379]

So did a giant alien craft drop elephants off or did they hatch from a chicken egg?

[2Painless2btrue 11]

Formidable Skycat! Have you ever asked yourself why anyone would want to live in a cave? Cold, damp, dark holes that they are! Light a fire and smoke yourself out! Yet everyone accepts we had 'Caveman' ancestors. Also, cave art is hardly George Stubbs or Charles Tunnicliffe is it? I wouldn't like to try and draw too many conclusions from it. However, I like your logic. I don't think my bitches would stand still to have their vulva stapled, by the way! But I digress! Have you ever considered that the Classification of Canines might be incomplete! At the moment it stops at 'Species'. If you look a little closer to home eg Man, you can see that we are a species sub-divided into obvious RACES ie Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongaloid. Other animals have similar relationships eg you can cross a domestic cat with a Bengal cat , or a Scottish Wildcat and still get fertile off-spring. Is it possible that the Dolichocephalic type of dog was a seperate Race of canine, possibly originating in the Middle East? As I mentioned, the Egyptians hunted with both Greyhounds and Cheetahs. Do you suggest that the Cheetah evolved from another type of cat by selective breeding? Or might it be an 'Original' type?

[skycat 6,173]

My pedestrian brain hurts too much to pursue this line of logic at the moment. I'm cooking more lucrative fish right now. Sorry, another time. But I have been in a cave which had small fissures leading to the sky: a natural hearth of you like, where the wind would be drawn through the cave and up through the chimney. I even considered making it my den for a while, but modern creature comforts held too strong a calling. LOL

[KittleRox 2,147]

Mad as a brush

[skycat 6,173]

[riohog 5,725]

Formidable Skycat! Have you ever asked yourself why anyone would want to live in a cave? Cold, damp, dark holes that they are! Light a fire and smoke yourself out! Yet everyone accepts we had 'Caveman' ancestors. Also, cave art is hardly George Stubbs or Charles Tunnicliffe is it? I wouldn't like to try and draw too many conclusions from it. However, I like your logic. I don't think my bitches would stand still to have their vulva stapled, by the way! But I digress! Have you ever considered that the Classification of Canines might be incomplete! At the moment it stops at 'Species'. If you look a little closer to home eg Man, you can see that we are a species sub-divided into obvious RACES ie Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongaloid. Other animals have similar relationships eg you can cross a domestic cat with a Bengal cat , or a Scottish Wildcat and still get fertile off-spring. Is it possible that the Dolichocephalic type of dog was a seperate Race of canine, possibly originating in the Middle East? As I mentioned, the Egyptians hunted with both Greyhounds and Cheetahs. Do you suggest that the Cheetah evolved from another type of cat by selective breeding? Or might it be an 'Original' type?

i dont think the caveman gave a flying f.. were the dogs came from origionally or the egyptians as long as they filled the pot he was happy ......wonder if they had bull x,s or beddy whippets ,, then ?or did they just drop out of the sky?

[KittleRox 2,147]

 

[2Painless2btrue 11]

Formidable Skycat! Have you ever asked yourself why anyone would want to live in a cave? Cold, damp, dark holes that they are! Light a fire and smoke yourself out! Yet everyone accepts we had 'Caveman' ancestors. Also, cave art is hardly George Stubbs or Charles Tunnicliffe is it? I wouldn't like to try and draw too many conclusions from it. However, I like your logic. I don't think my bitches would stand still to have their vulva stapled, by the way! But I digress! Have you ever considered that the Classification of Canines might be incomplete! At the moment it stops at 'Species'. If you look a little closer to home eg Man, you can see that we are a species sub-divided into obvious RACES ie Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongaloid. Other animals have similar relationships eg you can cross a domestic cat with a Bengal cat , or a Scottish Wildcat and still get fertile off-spring. Is it possible that the Dolichocephalic type of dog was a seperate Race of canine, possibly originating in the Middle East? As I mentioned, the Egyptians hunted with both Greyhounds and Cheetahs. Do you suggest that the Cheetah evolved from another type of cat by selective breeding? Or might it be an 'Original' type?

i dont think the caveman gave a flying f.. were the dogs came from origionally or the egyptians as long as they filled the pot he was happy ......wonder if they had bull x,s or beddy whippets ,, then ?or did they just drop out of the sky?

I don't pretend to have all the answers but I'm just amazed that no one seems to question the official line. Mad I might be but if the rest of the population are 'sane' that's ok with me! Google is a 'for profit' corporation. When you google something, the first sites offered to you are sponsored ie someone is PAYING so that you read them first! FACT! Ask yourself, who would be paying so that if you google 'Helicopter at Abydos' you get a page full of conspiracy DEBUNKING sites? TPTB don't want you looking at this stuff and unfortunately most of the population don't look any further than a site or 2 full of ridicule! Antis aren't the only brain-washed ones! Try looking at page 4 or 5 of stuff you google if you want to get past the Government Disinformation stuff. I dare you..... stop being so smug and try it!

[riohog 5,725]

Formidable Skycat! Have you ever asked yourself why anyone would want to live in a cave? Cold, damp, dark holes that they are! Light a fire and smoke yourself out! Yet everyone accepts we had 'Caveman' ancestors. Also, cave art is hardly George Stubbs or Charles Tunnicliffe is it? I wouldn't like to try and draw too many conclusions from it. However, I like your logic. I don't think my bitches would stand still to have their vulva stapled, by the way! But I digress! Have you ever considered that the Classification of Canines might be incomplete! At the moment it stops at 'Species'. If you look a little closer to home eg Man, you can see that we are a species sub-divided into obvious RACES ie Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongaloid. Other animals have similar relationships eg you can cross a domestic cat with a Bengal cat , or a Scottish Wildcat and still get fertile off-spring. Is it possible that the Dolichocephalic type of dog was a seperate Race of canine, possibly originating in the Middle East? As I mentioned, the Egyptians hunted with both Greyhounds and Cheetahs. Do you suggest that the Cheetah evolved from another type of cat by selective breeding? Or might it be an 'Original' type?

i dont think the caveman gave a flying f.. were the dogs came from origionally or the egyptians as long as they filled the pot he was happy ......wonder if they had bull x,s or beddy whippets ,, then ?or did they just drop out of the sky?

I don't pretend to have all the answers but I'm just amazed that no one seems to question the official line. Mad I might be but if the rest of the population are 'sane' that's ok with me! Google is a 'for profit' corporation. When you google something, the first sites offered to you are sponsored ie someone is PAYING so that you read them first! FACT! Ask yourself, who would be paying so that if you google 'Helicopter at Abydos' you get a page full of conspiracy DEBUNKING sites? TPTB don't want you looking at this stuff and unfortunately most of the population don't look any further than a site or 2 full of ridicule! Antis aren't the only brain-washed ones! Try looking at page 4 or 5 of stuff you google if you want to get past the Government Disinformation stuff. I dare you..... stop being so smug and try it!

i think if youve so many issues with the world you would be better off finding a cave on somewhere remote

[Tiny 7 1,694]

Fcuk me this is all abit deep for a friday afternoon.....

 

 

Edited to say iv google the Helicopter at abydos and it is a bit intretsing

[2.8 guy 403]

hi to all yes deep stuff, ive heard it said that all dogs are 99.9 percent wolf dna make up ect so what did they breed the wolf too to get the dog just a thought

[birddog 1,354]

i've googled quite a bit on the origins of dogs thanks to skycats original post and her differing opinions to mine, learned loads like the closest breeds to the wolf by dna are the eastern breeds like the lhasa apso, dogs aren't pack animals (that one got me), and like she says there are a few theories out there well worth sensible adult discussion. what shouldv'e been a cracking post..............well what can i say!