Ancient sighthounds

[whip x grey 276]

wow ,,,this topic went well beyound my head ,,,not hard

 

 

do i think wolfs ,,,made the sighthound ,,,NO ,,,but iam in a way making a statment ,,,neither true or false

 

iam i worried about it NO,,,why ?? its what happens here and now,,,,that counts

 

do i belive in certain animals or birds or humans ,,,evolthing or arise through evolutionary processes,,,offcouse i do,,lol

 

this argument can go round and round and round ,,,blah blah blah

[chartpolski 24,096]

Well. your sitting watching, Pointless, and have certainly sucked me in ! So kudo's to you ! I'm a retired Aircraft Engineer, but how could I explain heavier than air flight to a savage ?? Yesterday, I was awarded a Certificate in Solar Energy Production, but how can I explain to the "bloke in the bar" how I'm going to give him free electricity ? The point I'm trying to make, is that eveyone dosen't need to know EVERYTHING ! When you dig deep enough, you find some things.....but is it what you REALY want to find ??

 

Cheers.

Don't be so f-cking patronising! TPTB suppress enough without the few of us who've done the research staying tight-lipped! I haven't sucked anyone in and I totally respect the 'man in the bar' with an open mind! Most people are in a trance state due to television corrupting their thinking and a discussion like this brings facts into the open so people can have access to information. Why would you want to keep it from them? Nobody needs protecting from the truth!

 

I'm sorry if you felt patronised ! I thought, (wrongly), that I was speaking on my own level!! You keep using acronyms that I, and most on here recognise, but some won't ! So I think it's YOU who are being "Patronising" !! If you, somehow, think you are better than the lad's and lasses on here, then go for it mate... but you simply aren't the cleverest on this site..............you're just a prick !!

[optimus 447]

AT HIS TIME DARWIN WAS A POINT OF RIDICULE AS HIS WRITINGS ON EVOLUTION FROM APES WENT AGAINST THE TEACHINGS THAT MAN WAS MADE IN GODS IMAGE. SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST IS A SUPERB THEORY. HOWEVER SOCIAL DARWINISM WAS EMBRACED BY REGIMES SUCH AS THE NAZIS (& this is a dangerous subject matter) & THE BELIEF THAT THE ARYAN RACE WAS SUPREME. HOWEVER THIS MATTER OF EUGENICS WAS FLAWED IN 1 MAJOR AREA BEING IS IT NATURE OR NURTURE THAT PRODUCES THE END RESULT WHEN BREEDING FROM SOUND STOCK??? THE WORD THEORY REIGNS SUPREME IN THIS AREA OF THINKING. MYSELF I CANT BE DOING WITH GOOGLE ETC & TRUE KNOWLEDGE MUST BE SOUGHT OR READ. WHAT USE IS LEARNING & EVOLUTION OF THINKING WHICH CAN LEAD TO IDENTITY OF A PARTICULAR POINT THAT MAY HOLD THE KEY TO SOLVING AN ISSUE OR INCREASING KNOWLEDGE OF A SUBJECT. HOWEVER I AGREE WITH C,P THAT DIGGING DEEP ENOUGH IN TO A SUBJECT MAY LEAD TO FINDING AN ANSWER/ANSWERS THAT YOU DIDNT WANT TO FIND. FACT IS I FIND THAT THE MORE YOU LEARN OR KNOW MAKES YOU REALISE HOW LITTLE YOU DO KNOW & THAT MEANS THAT FORMING A THEORY IS AS GOOD AS MANY CAN EXPECT IN MY OPINION

[hok boi 40]

it could have been a helicopter time traveller that went to ancient egypt for a spot of lamping with a saluki x bull x grey and lost his dogs in an aerial battle with a flying saucer piloted by the alien race that ruled the ancient world lol.

i definitely go for the evolutionary idea.

atb chris

[optimus 447]

wow ,,,this topic went well beyound my head ,,,not hard

 

 

do i think wolfs ,,,made the sighthound ,,,NO ,,,but iam in a way making a statment ,,,neither true or false

 

iam i worried about it NO,,,why ?? its what happens here and now,,,,that counts

 

do i belive in certain animals or birds or humans ,,,evolthing or arise through evolutionary processes,,,offcouse i do,,lol

 

this argument can go round and round and round ,,,blah blah blah

WOW BOB ,YOU WILL BE PICKING SKELFS OUT YOUR ARSE ALL NIGHT FROM SITTING ON THAT FENCE MATE. LOL.

[chartpolski 24,096]

So, lets get back to dogs !!! I've had the pleasure to see African Wild Dogs pass thru' from Africa to Saudi Arabia, to Egypt. I shouldn't say it was a pleasure, it was just because I was there ! As far as I know, these dogs are as fast as any breed, but hunt in a pack, and run for miles on their prey! They are classed as "canines", but don't inter breed with dogs ! So, Pointless, are they a different breed, as you suggest ??

 

Cheers.

[hok boi 40]

didnt know that, not sure what to make of it, food for thought though

[optimus 447]

So, lets get back to dogs !!! I've had the pleasure to see African Wild Dogs pass thru' from Africa to Saudi Arabia, to Egypt. I shouldn't say it was a pleasure, it was just because I was there ! As far as I know, these dogs are as fast as any breed, but hunt in a pack, and run for miles on their prey! They are classed as "canines", but don't inter breed with dogs ! So, Pointless, are they a different breed, as you suggest ??

 

Cheers.

TRUE ON WILD DOG POINT & THEY ARE CANINES AS THEY SUFFER FROM CANINE VIRUSE`S SAME AS DOMESTIC DOGS DO. THIS BEING A FACTOR IN THEIR DECLINE IN THE WILD. ENCROACHING HUMAN SETTLEMENTS & THE CANINES & SUBSEQUENT MALAISE`S THEY BRING WITH THEM

[whip x grey 276]

wow ,,,this topic went well beyound my head ,,,not hard

 

 

do i think wolfs ,,,made the sighthound ,,,NO ,,,but iam in a way making a statment ,,,neither true or false

 

iam i worried about it NO,,,why ?? its what happens here and now,,,,that counts

 

do i belive in certain animals or birds or humans ,,,evolthing or arise through evolutionary processes,,,offcouse i do,,lol

 

this argument can go round and round and round ,,,blah blah blah

WOW BOB ,YOU WILL BE PICKING SKELFS OUT YOUR ARSE ALL NIGHT FROM SITTING ON THAT FENCE MATE. LOL.

 

lol maybe so lol

but i wont lose any sleep over it ,,,as its all history (true or false ), talking about it wont change it ,lol

i think alot off statements have been made about things ,,that are either true or false,,,same as police make statments are made on tv to public,,,reason for statments is,,the truth can change as more information comes in

 

and this topic,,,,wont change a thing ,,,so to me its pointless,,and that aint no statement ,,but fact lol

 

nice to see ya posting again optimus :thumbs:

Edited February 25, 2012 by whip x grey

[DogFox123 1,379]

So, lets get back to dogs !!! I've had the pleasure to see African Wild Dogs pass thru' from Africa to Saudi Arabia, to Egypt. I shouldn't say it was a pleasure, it was just because I was there ! As far as I know, these dogs are as fast as any breed, but hunt in a pack, and run for miles on their prey! They are classed as "canines", but don't inter breed with dogs ! So, Pointless, are they a different breed, as you suggest ??

 

Cheers.

 

They are supposedly faster than greyhounds though on documentaries they don't appear to be

[riohog 5,721]

Eocene epoch

Carnivorans evolved from miacoids about 55 million years ago during the late Paleocene.^[4] Then, about 50 million years ago, the carnivorans split into two main divisions: caniforms (dog-like) and feliforms (cat-like). By 40 million years ago the first clearly identifiable member of the dog family Canidae had arisen. It was called Prohesperocyon wilsoni and was found in what is now southwestern Texas. This fossil species bears a combination of features that definitively mark it as a canid: teeth that include the loss of the upper third molar (a general trend toward a more shearing bite), and the characteristically enlarged bony bulla (the rounded covering over the middle ear). Based on what we know about its descendants, Prohesperocyon likely had slightly more elongated limbs than its predecessors, along with toes that were parallel and closely touching, rather than splayed, as in bears.^[5]

The Canidae family soon subdivided into three subfamilies, each of which diverged during the Eocene: Hesperocyoninae (~39.74-15 Mya), Borophaginae (~34-2 Mya), and the Caninae (~34-0 Mya) lineage that led to present-day canids (wolves, foxes, coyotes, jackals, and domestic dogs). Each of these groups showed an increase in body mass with time, and sometimes exhibited a specialised hypercarnivorous diet that made them prone to extinction.^{[6]:Fig. 1} Only the Caninae lineage, commonly referred to as "canines", survived to the present day

[Tiny 7 1,694]

So, lets get back to dogs !!! I've had the pleasure to see African Wild Dogs pass thru' from Africa to Saudi Arabia, to Egypt. I shouldn't say it was a pleasure, it was just because I was there ! As far as I know, these dogs are as fast as any breed, but hunt in a pack, and run for miles on their prey! They are classed as "canines", but don't inter breed with dogs ! So, Pointless, are they a different breed, as you suggest ??

 

Cheers.

 

They are supposedly faster than greyhounds though on documentaries they don't appear to be

Another fast dog that can run slow and save its self....

 

 

Fcuk me this gets deeper and deeper :icon_eek:

[optimus 447]

So, lets get back to dogs !!! I've had the pleasure to see African Wild Dogs pass thru' from Africa to Saudi Arabia, to Egypt. I shouldn't say it was a pleasure, it was just because I was there ! As far as I know, these dogs are as fast as any breed, but hunt in a pack, and run for miles on their prey! They are classed as "canines", but don't inter breed with dogs ! So, Pointless, are they a different breed, as you suggest ??

 

Cheers.

 

They are supposedly faster than greyhounds though on documentaries they don't appear to be

NOT FASTER DF. THEY RUN ON AEROBIC RESPIRATION AS MUSCLE TONE SUGGESTS. THEY RELY ON STAMINA TO WEAR DOWN THE QUARRY & TEAM WORK WITHIN THE PACK TO TAKE PREY. WATCHING A HUNT & HOPEFULLY A TAKE DOWN AT THE END IS A WONDERFULL SPECTACLE. SADLY APART FROM TV THE NEAREST I GOT TO SEEING THEM WAS AT LONDON ZOO

[DogFox123 1,379]

Look it up they have been clocked at higher speeds than greyhounds, they are one of natures ultimate athletes

[2Painless2btrue 11]

Well. your sitting watching, Pointless, and have certainly sucked me in ! So kudo's to you ! I'm a retired Aircraft Engineer, but how could I explain heavier than air flight to a savage ?? Yesterday, I was awarded a Certificate in Solar Energy Production, but how can I explain to the "bloke in the bar" how I'm going to give him free electricity ? The point I'm trying to make, is that eveyone dosen't need to know EVERYTHING ! When you dig deep enough, you find some things.....but is it what you REALY want to find ??

 

Cheers.

Don't be so f-cking patronising! TPTB suppress enough without the few of us who've done the research staying tight-lipped! I haven't sucked anyone in and I totally respect the 'man in the bar' with an open mind! Most people are in a trance state due to television corrupting their thinking and a discussion like this brings facts into the open so people can have access to information. Why would you want to keep it from them? Nobody needs protecting from the truth!

 

I'm sorry if you felt patronised ! I thought, (wrongly), that I was speaking on my own level!! You keep using acronyms that I, and most on here recognise, but some won't ! So I think it's YOU who are being "Patronising" !! If you, somehow, think you are better than the lad's and lasses on here, then go for it mate... but you simply aren't the cleverest on this site..............you're just a prick !!

You crow about being so well qualified, ok so you're an Engineer! I was thrown out of class for challenging the crap that the teachers were trying to feed me. That was 40 years ago and I've made a point of educating myself in stuff they never teach you in school. i don't feel patronised by a dick like you, it's your attitude to the so called 'man in the bar' like me that sticks in my craw! You calling me a c--t doesn't make me one.... you behaving like one makes you one! What's with all the name calling anyway? Do you feel that your position as "cleverest on this site".... your words .... is threatened? Like I said. there's plenty of intelligent input without yours.... or is it your own private club?