richmcgin 32 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Though i would just drop this in for the know alls the missguided the cheats and the chap that started this thread!!! head shot at 207yards my point of zero dead on at 100yrds using a 55g home load Quote Link to post
.338LM 10 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 ok i give up whats a nirex folder?? Ah, just a flexible waterproof plastic folder that has all my come ups for all natures of ammo for that particular rifle. I also record all shots fired so I have an idea of how many rounds I have rattled through the tube. Its basically a log book for each rifle, bit anal but because I use quite a few natures of ammo, I can keep track. Good shooting by the way, pays to know your trajectory. Quote Link to post
markha 99 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Richmcgin - good shooting .338LM - nirex - old school squaddy? Quote Link to post
richmcgin 32 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 thanks for that 338LM thought i missing out on some sort of software !!! Thanks for the good shooting comments, we all get lucky every now and then!!!!. Quote Link to post
bigrifle 24 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 hi i am going to zero my 223 today whats the best distance to zero at 50/100/150/200 yards ? im shooting 50 grain heads with 26 grains of powder.im going to be shooting foxes from distances of 40 yards out to 300 yards. Thanks What FEO grants fac rifles to guys like this Quote Link to post
GRAM71 29 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Edited March 11, 2012 by GRAM71 Quote Link to post
bigrifle 24 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 hi i am going to zero my 223 today whats the best distance to zero at 50/100/150/200 yards ? im shooting 50 grain heads with 26 grains of powder.im going to be shooting foxes from distances of 40 yards out to 300 yards. Thanks What FEO grants fac rifles to guys like this scary isn't it? i'm not knocking the OP here as i'm sure he'll be careful, but for a force to grant a newb to c/fire without as much as a mentor condition seems a little worrying, i know of a right tosser near me that's been ragging the fld for a 243 for a while now, he's a complete tw@! using hedges as backstops and decoying pigeons with his 22lr, no mentoring or sweet fa, thinks that because he used to shoot air rifle for a while it'll be much the same. i only hope he doesn't shoot anyone you know what i think and have done for a long time now there giving fac out like confeti knowing this will lead to shit and the end of what we hold dear Quote Link to post
richmcgin 32 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Tad rude that Bigrifle, i thought that was a perfectly reasonable question. Quote Link to post
.338LM 10 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Hmm, I thought it was a perfectly reasonable question too. I have seen a great many folks who have not had the benefit of a full and very formal training in ALL aspects of firearms. Some have been superb; conscientious, willing to learn from those who are more experienced and often full of questions. Others on the other hand have been beyond belief; often though, it is those that would tell everyone else what they are doing wrong. I have been in this game for many years and I am still learning and expect to do so until I peg out. In the meantime, if someone asks for advice and I think I can help I will do so. Edit to add: I would also consider it the responsibility of every FAC holder to try and pass on their knowledge to others coming into this game. If we don't, we risk appearing elitist and arrogant, a flavour that many now think has permeated the environs of Bisley. Edited February 29, 2012 by .338LM Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Hmm, I thought it was a perfectly reasonable question too. I have seen a great many folks who have not had the benefit of a full and very formal training in ALL aspects of firearms. Some have been superb; conscientious, willing to learn from those who are more experienced and often full of questions. Others on the other hand have been beyond belief; often though, it is those that would tell everyone else what they are doing wrong. I have been in this game for many years and I am still learning and expect to do so until I peg out. In the meantime, if someone asks for advice and I think I can help I will do so. Edit to add: I would also consider it the responsibility of every FAC holder to try and pass on their knowledge to others coming into this game. If we don't, we risk appearing elitist and arrogant, a flavour that many now think has permeated the environs of Bisley. By inference the guy is reloading, yet he doesn't have a clue how/where to zero, so how does he know what cartridge to develop/use, it doesn't add up? It seems very odd to me and I'm surprised more have not picked up on that. Quote Link to post
.338LM 10 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 To be honest it is very easy to come to many conclusions reading his posts, not all if any may be right. Whilst the vagueness and lack of information regarding the reloading data gives cause for concern, it is possibly an error in expression. At the end of the day, messing up a load is much more likely to cause mischief that not knowing what range to zero your rifle at. That being said, a question was asked and I believe it is up to all of us to pass what little knowledge we have to those who may have less. To put someone down for asking basic questions will only stop them asking these often important questions and that will do us collectively no good at all. Just my two bob's worth. Quote Link to post
richmcgin 32 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Hmm, I thought it was a perfectly reasonable question too. I have seen a great many folks who have not had the benefit of a full and very formal training in ALL aspects of firearms. Some have been superb; conscientious, willing to learn from those who are more experienced and often full of questions. Others on the other hand have been beyond belief; often though, it is those that would tell everyone else what they are doing wrong. I have been in this game for many years and I am still learning and expect to do so until I peg out. In the meantime, if someone asks for advice and I think I can help I will do so. Edit to add: I would also consider it the responsibility of every FAC holder to try and pass on their knowledge to others coming into this game. If we don't, we risk appearing elitist and arrogant, a flavour that many now think has permeated the environs of Bisley. By inference the guy is reloading, yet he doesn't have a clue how/where to zero, so how does he know what cartridge to develop/use, it doesn't add up? It seems very odd to me and I'm surprised more have not picked up on that. i think we are only assuming that this guy doesnt have much experience, i would have thought that the fact that he reloads should mean differently but that may not be the case, it may be that he is new to 223 and is just asking the questions to save time in the field. in either case i fully agree that those who can help with good advise should do so.I grew up with shooting and read many books and wrote many letters trying to learn, now adays the internet gives us access to information and other like minded people like never before, i wish it had been available to me a youngster would have helped me out no end, I also find it satisfying to know that i have helped someone out. I shot a Bisley for many years when i lived in Woking but i must say that once you got to know the guys there they where always helpful, but yes i would agree with that elitest attitudes do exist there on most of the ranges and clubs. Quote Link to post
markha 99 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 I have to admit I completely igonred the posters comments about bullet and charge weight and any assumptions about reloading and skipped straight to the point about what distance to zero at, and put my pennies in. This is an internet forum after all and I try to approach all questions subjectively as there is no such thing as a stupid question, to me everyone on here is sound as a pound until they prove themseves to be otherwise, then Im the kind of guy who does not suffer fools gladly and Ill say what I think. Quote Link to post
Bybyfox 1 Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 Hi I reload 55 gr billistic tip hornady. Super bullets. I have Sako 223 laminated stainless varmint. 200 yard 2ich groups, sometime it moves to about 3 or 4 inches., but I can assure you when I on the fox he's dead at 200 yards. I've pushed the hornady 55gr to 300 or 400 yards with hold over of 5 inches abovr foxes shoulder boooom he's down. So 1 ichabove I've never done I've alway zeroed at 50, 100, 150, and after 150 I've usually juge it on the night as, night vision is hard to juge your distance. I hope thi helps. Also I use Blc-2 24.5 grs and cci 400 primers spot on. Quote Link to post
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