lanesra 3,994 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 oh the gunners win one did they arsehole vinnerga face still in charge you'll win foooook all again What you mean "win nothing AGAIN" ... i will have you know our Women's team win the league or cup every yr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,256 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Gnash i think we will agree we will always disagree on John Terry situation , yes the F.A. are as you say hypocrites ect , but the 1 Common Denominator in all the Bad Publicity we have seen in the past few yrs HE is at the centre off , i will repeat myself , i watched 4/5 journalists discussing the Wayne Bridge situation and the shocking thing about the interview was how the only shock to them was the fact Capelo made Terry captain given what he brings to the table , 1 said "We where shocked he was made captain knowing the controversity he brings , cant believe no 1 didnt warn him" , and journalist's know FAR MORE than they print so for them too KNOW he wasnt the right man through bad publicity not football matters say's everything too me , and i think in his situation morally for the National Game he should off stepped down until he cleared his name as soon as HE decided he was going to drag this on till after the finals , and i dont think Redknapp will for 1 minute jepodise his DREAM off managing the country for John Terry , the big picture is todays Footballers are so out off touch with reality , the man in the street up till a few yrs ago had something in common with footballers not any more sadly ! I,ll stick to my beliefs mate......if people ( media as well as public )........paid more attention to what takes place ON a football pitch rather than what happens off it.............the game in general would be in far better shape............the fact you say Redknapp wont jeopardise his dream by making Terry captain says it all really..........what if he thinks Terry is the best man for the job ?.....he,s got 1 hand tied behind his back before he even gets the job for reasons nothing to do with football !! I think our fa should think themself extremely lucky somebody of Harry Redknapps calibre would even be willing to do such a no win shitty job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 ENGLAND and this hurts me to say WILL WIN NOTHING WHILE WE HAVE THE CURRENT SYSTEM IN PLACE the FA is run by GANG OF OLD FARTS who have know idea about football at this level they are successfull in there own right but when it comes to international football they are way out of the depth , we have missed the boat in the past clough, paisley , kendal , , there are currently three contenders imo the FA WILL FOOOOK IT UP WAIT AND SEE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
masmiffy 82 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Whoever takes on the job is a brave man or stupid! The FA will always dictate to their chosen manager, who may not be the right man for the job in the public's mind. They have spent millions on great coaches and managers and none have actually won anything! Its a thankless task trying to get the best out of good (not great) team players at international level, some of who hardly wear their hearts on there sleeves do they? Whoever gets the job should be allowed to do it their way and not have the FA media and us going on at them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
masmiffy 82 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 LMAO Superb! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,256 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Whoever takes on the job is a brave man or stupid! The FA will always dictate to their chosen manager, who may not be the right man for the job in the public's mind. They have spent millions on great coaches and managers and none have actually won anything! Its a thankless task trying to get the best out of good (not great) team players at international level, some of who hardly wear their hearts on there sleeves do they? Whoever gets the job should be allowed to do it their way and not have the FA media and us going on at them. I agree with that...... I dont think its as complicated as folk make out.....i think we have some great players,but i dont kid myself on a world scale theres no reason to think we should be winning things.....its like expecting Everton or Arsenal to win the premiership every year....they are very good teams but not good enough to regularly win things........like in any sport its all about getting the best from what you have and seeing how far that can take you......Harry Redknapp has a great reputation for getting the best out of players.....he got Bournmouth up on no money..... took Pompey from bottom of the championship to top 7 premier league inside 2 years....and taken Spurs from near bottom to near top of the premier league........all without world class footballers.......if anyone can get the best from our players who are good but not the best in the world....he can....he,s already proved he can. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Whoever takes on the job is a brave man or stupid! The FA will always dictate to their chosen manager, who may not be the right man for the job in the public's mind. They have spent millions on great coaches and managers and none have actually won anything! Its a thankless task trying to get the best out of good (not great) team players at international level, some of who hardly wear their hearts on there sleeves do they? Whoever gets the job should be allowed to do it their way and not have the FA media and us going on at them. People going on about letting the manager manage , do they believe the people at the F.A. are/have stopped The Team some how being succesfull now or in the past ??????? as basically England arent good enough No matter who is manager and in my time an England manager has never had anything but support off the F.A. no matter what people say , last world cup they where at best an average team and too say Lampards goal that was dissalowed would off changed the game is REALLY Grasping at straws as Germany where FAR SUPERIOR and the SAME SQUAD bar 1 or 2 will be the same this summer so i wouldnt hold my breath on them returning victorious ... the situation with Capelo over them taking the captain's arm band off Terry is laughable as Capelo when hired stated he didnt know what the fuss was about over the Captain as in Italian football they dont put the same enfisise on a captain as we do yet NOW he has walked on that basis .... seems strange too me that , anyway as we approach the Euro's people will get exited the papers will convince most that England will deliver the OLD SONGS will resurface and HAY HO the country will BELIEVE ... only to be left DISSAPOINTED AGAIN ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,353 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I would love to see Harry get it just for the pure joy of seeing those f*****g Jew b*****ds loose him......I couldn't give a shit if England never win another game, seeing the pain on the faces of the yids will be more than enough to keep me happy for years to come!!! dont west ham fans get on with totnham then It's an irrational thing, can't speake for all WHU fans but those chicken chested fuckers make me puke......other than that, I am fine!! Lol lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,256 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) anyway as we approach the Euro's people will get exited the papers will convince most that England will deliver the OLD SONGS will resurface and HAY HO the country will BELIEVE ... only to be left DISSAPOINTED AGAIN ! Thats just part of being a football fan mate......call me a gullible twat all you like i couldnt give a monkeys i,ll be supporting our boys this time the same as the last time the same as the next time after that..........if you cant cope with dissapointment dont follow football,simple.....and for f**k sake dont follow West Ham Edited February 9, 2012 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Whoever takes on the job is a brave man or stupid! The FA will always dictate to their chosen manager, who may not be the right man for the job in the public's mind. They have spent millions on great coaches and managers and none have actually won anything! Its a thankless task trying to get the best out of good (not great) team players at international level, some of who hardly wear their hearts on there sleeves do they? Whoever gets the job should be allowed to do it their way and not have the FA media and us going on at them. I agree with that...... I dont think its as complicated as folk make out.....i think we have some great players,but i dont kid myself on a world scale theres no reason to think we should be winning things.....its like expecting Everton or Arsenal to win the premiership every year....GOT TO BE IN IT TO WIN IT BUD . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
craigyboy 1,274 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) anybody who says we havent got the players to win a major tournament, are talking shite just remember greece yes greece we just need the right man to guide em fecking greece i still cant get over that Edited February 9, 2012 by craigyboy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Good article here about the way the media influence your national side: http://www.football365.com/faves/7498696/Feeling-Sick-At-This-Stalinist-Whitewash... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I've got to laugh when i read things like "still the same players".."A new manager wont change things"...........what utter bollocks of the highest level. The England side (hurts too say it) is full of World class players but the managers job is to get those world class players playing like a team. His job is to find out who works best together not just who's been playing best for there club lately. And i think thats the key to becoming a decent manager or a great manager. The difference with a shite manager is a manger who thinks he has to play a certain player just because there doing well at the minute. I mean what kind of manager plays players out of positition just to get them on the park, and alot of them do.... But Harry knows his stuff and with the little bit of luck he carries i reckon it wont be long before England win big............ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 anybody who says we havent got the players to win a major tournament, are talking shite just remember greece yes greece we just need the right man to guide em fecking greece i still cant get over that We havent in my opinion , you say we have got the players to win a tournament name them and remind me what makes you think they have what it takes ie when have they been in a tournament where you thought "they can win this" , Italia 90 or Euro 96 maybe , are best teams/players in premiership are foriegn , Man City have Joe Hart , Man u have Rooney , Tottenham have Parker , Chelsea have A. Cole Lampard Terry , Arsenal have Wiltshire (who is untested so doesnt count) Liverpool have Gerrard , who are really good players in there position after this lot the rest are average or novices or playing on reputation so i cant see how you can say the players are there to win a major tournament , now look at Germany or Spain and tell me how many off Englands best players would start for either off these 2 ... not many id say , Gnash i wouldnt call you Gullible thats your opinion and good on you , and we talk about SHIT MANAGERS but apart from Mclaren the other 2 Erickson and Capelo where when hired considered at the top off there game throughout europe having managed the best and won the best , now Redknapp is being hailed as the Messiah by some but lets not forget he has won 1 trophy though i think he should have the job, im coming across here as very negative though i think im a realist and im given my honest opinion , and id like nothing better than come the summer i was being shot down for being wrong . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,256 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Would you say Tottenham have a team of world class players ?..... would you say Portsmouth a few years back had a team of even very good players at domestic level ?.......would you say Bournmouth had a team of good enough players to get promotion ? Thats what good managers do,they get the best from players and elevate teams to positions beyond their real level of ability......Harry Redknapp has done that all his career.....i think we have some very good players but not the best in the world by any means.....but if Harry Redknapp can do at International level what he has proven he can do at club level theres no reason to think we cant punch at least a little bit above our weight. Thats if he is left alone to manage a football team of course,which is highly unlikely with the scum that influence our game these days ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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