Big Jim101 29 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 alright lads, just a quick question for you. obviously a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie is going to be faster than the 1st cross but how does the 1st cross do on generally speed? are they quick enough to take rabbits on the lamp and and to catch bushed rabbits? and how do you think they would fair against the 3/4 greyhound bred?? atb Jim Quote Link to post
Stabs 2 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Sent you a pm Jim Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 3/4 arent as stubborn as first crosses and not as selective in what they want to run.would be more as an alrounder Quote Link to post
Guest born to run1083 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) 3/4 arent as stubborn as first crosses and not as selective in what they want to run.would be more as an alrounder I wouldn't say stubborn at all. I have a first x collie/grey doesn't stalk or pick runs, hits hedges after quarry. When in Ireland she took a Charlie, had two now single handed, it's her first season on the lamp at 11 month old she did a 15 on the lamp and her best being 24 now at 16month old, she took a photograph of a Bambi pricklet only around 50lb odd but had no problem in dealing with it ,so no doubt first crosses can catch and more on the lamp. But I find them sensitive. They know when your angry and feed off it and can act like nobs But as an all rounder I still think a 3/4 have a little more edge due to there extra gear but I think you sacrifice that stamina a first x has to get that extra pace but worth it in the long run as 1/4 collie is enough in any lurcher Edited February 8, 2012 by born to run1083 Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Only ever had one first cross a 22tts bitch wich was the easeyist dog i have had to train but she just did not have the take off speed that puts rabbits in the bag wile bushing. Quote Link to post
Big Jim101 29 Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 cheers stabs, thats a good read! do you think a 3/4 bred would do better for bushing then poacher? Quote Link to post
Big Jim101 29 Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 and was just thinking, what would a 1/4 collie grey be like at bushing? would they get into cover and use their noses or just wait for a bolt?? Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 and was just thinking, what would a 1/4 collie grey be like at bushing? would they get into cover and use their noses or just wait for a bolt?? Depends on the land a few of the 3 quarter breds i have seen have been big lumps and its only my opinion but a grey/collie back to whippet/grey would be my choice over a 3 quarter bred grey/collie .Then again i have had more succes with dogs bred out of collie/greys bred to other lurcher types. Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 like most things there are good and bad specimens of both, a lot will depend on how they've been brought up. i've seen good 1st crosses take hares single handed (pre ban of course) have you thought about the inbetween option? a 3/8 5/8 either way Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 like most things there are good and bad specimens of both, a lot will depend on how they've been brought up. i've seen good 1st crosses take hares single handed (pre ban of course) have you thought about the inbetween option? a 3/8 5/8 either way Only going on wat i have seen the best collie crosses i have seen were bred this way. Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 like most things there are good and bad specimens of both, a lot will depend on how they've been brought up. i've seen good 1st crosses take hares single handed (pre ban of course) have you thought about the inbetween option? a 3/8 5/8 either way Only going on wat i have seen the best collie crosses i have seen were bred this way. a good 3/8 collie 5/8 greyhound could give you the speed and hunting instinct of the 3/4 and the brain of the 1st cross also some of the line bred collie crosses are a bit special Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 had the full spectrunm of the collie types theyre allways better bred on to othe types . atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,110 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 alright lads, just a quick question for you. obviously a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie is going to be faster than the 1st cross but how does the 1st cross do on generally speed? are they quick enough to take rabbits on the lamp and and to catch bushed rabbits? and how do you think they would fair against the 3/4 greyhound bred?? atb Jim imo a good first cross would be better than a good 3/4 bred. and a first cross is fast enough to take rabbits on the lamp. Quote Link to post
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