Cover dog for working with runners.

[Millet 4,497]

If you want to work fox above ground i would steer clear of a terrier because sooner or later it will be on a tail end chase that will excite the dog so much it wont hold back on going to ground..had it happen several time's..and 9 hr's was the longest it took for the terrier to come back out..no collar or spade.. ..i think you would be best sticking with a springer or cocker X as they wont fit down to ground..

[Ideation 8,216]

I couldn't decide if this should go in the hound or terrier section, but figured that folk here would have experianced a good range of different dogs used for the above job.

 

I'm looking for a dog to work the cover, both small type - hedges, brambles, ditches etc, and also bigger spots like woodland, cover crops etc.

 

The dog would be used for rabbits and also for flushing larger stuff ( i do a lot of travelling to places where this is legal), i would really like it NOT to go to ground, as we have a lot of difficult places, and would also like it to speak when on it's quarrys ass, or maybe also on very hot scent.

 

I am really open to pures or cross breeds, but would prefer something with not too much spaniel, and would not go for a pure spaniel.

 

I would like something to be able to hunt independantly, but not to be tracking it down to the next county.

 

I would like a dog able to get stuck in if needed and not just flush.

 

Any ideas? ( I know its a lot of asks)

Springer/beagle crosses suit us,hunt hard all day and plenty of voice.breeding is everything as in all working dogs.a lot of shite out there.

 

Sounds interesting, any pics? Does the spaniel cut down on the beagle running too far ahead?

 

Like i said - im surprised there are not folk out there with good tested lines of bushers, rather than pure breeds or first x's.

[Ideation 8,216]

If you want to work fox above ground i would steer clear of a terrier because sooner or later it will be on a tail end chase that will excite the dog so much it wont hold back on going to ground..had it happen several time's..and 9 hr's was the longest it took for the terrier to come back out..no collar or spade.. ..i think you would be best sticking with a springer or cocker X as they wont fit down to ground..

 

That's my thoughts millet, but i dont want a pure spaniel or anything spaniel looking. Personal issues lol (father that is a spaniel man).

[Millet 4,497]

What about a sproker springer x cocker..but then again they a spaniel like..other than that what about a wire or short haired pointer..

 

Edited to add..or jonny's pup ..a good lurcher will do all of that..and more

Edited February 5, 2012 by Millet

[chester 147]

what about a well trained brittany hold on point giving you time to walk in with the lurcher for the flush

[Ideation 8,216]

What about a sproker springer x cocker..but then again they a spaniel like..other than that what about a wire or short haired pointer..

 

Edited to add..or jonny's pup ..a good lurcher will do all of that..and more

 

Trust me, i'd get more stick over the sprocker than i would the bloody springer haha. And feck bloody pointers

 

I agree about the lurcher thing, and we currently use a whippet for the job of knocking stuff out to the other runners, but its not quite ideal. Even a well bred lurcher, would still struggle in some of the spots we go, and besides, dogs for jobs and all that

[Ideation 8,216]

what about a well trained brittany hold on point giving you time to walk in with the lurcher for the flush

 

Nice looking dog matey, but it's just not a spaniel for me. If i was to get a spaniel, i would end up with a springer and before i knew it i would be beating / picking up and thinking about bloody field trials hahaha. Not for me.

[beast 1,884]

I couldn't decide if this should go in the hound or terrier section, but figured that folk here would have experianced a good range of different dogs used for the above job.

 

I'm looking for a dog to work the cover, both small type - hedges, brambles, ditches etc, and also bigger spots like woodland, cover crops etc.

 

The dog would be used for rabbits and also for flushing larger stuff ( i do a lot of travelling to places where this is legal), i would really like it NOT to go to ground, as we have a lot of difficult places, and would also like it to speak when on it's quarrys ass, or maybe also on very hot scent.

 

I am really open to pures or cross breeds, but would prefer something with not too much spaniel, and would not go for a pure spaniel.

 

I would like something to be able to hunt independantly, but not to be tracking it down to the next county.

 

I would like a dog able to get stuck in if needed and not just flush.

 

Any ideas? ( I know its a lot of asks)

Springer/beagle crosses suit us,hunt hard all day and plenty of voice.breeding is everything as in all working dogs.a lot of shite out there.

 

Yeah we like the beagle cross, back to terriers

[derekbrown 176]

I couldn't decide if this should go in the hound or terrier section, but figured that folk here would have experianced a good range of different dogs used for the above job.

 

I'm looking for a dog to work the cover, both small type - hedges, brambles, ditches etc, and also bigger spots like woodland, cover crops etc.

 

The dog would be used for rabbits and also for flushing larger stuff ( i do a lot of travelling to places where this is legal), i would really like it NOT to go to ground, as we have a lot of difficult places, and would also like it to speak when on it's quarrys ass, or maybe also on very hot scent.

 

I am really open to pures or cross breeds, but would prefer something with not too much spaniel, and would not go for a pure spaniel.

 

I would like something to be able to hunt independantly, but not to be tracking it down to the next county.

 

I would like a dog able to get stuck in if needed and not just flush.

 

Any ideas? ( I know its a lot of asks)

Springer/beagle crosses suit us,hunt hard all day and plenty of voice.breeding is everything as in all working dogs.a lot of shite out there.

 

Sounds interesting, any pics? Does the spaniel cut down on the beagle running too far ahead?

 

Like i said - im surprised there are not folk out there with good tested lines of bushers, rather than pure breeds or first x's.

Well the spaniel does cut down on them running on but if they are any good they will hunt on to a certain extent.I have a springer here that would be no good to a shooting man but i have her steady and obedient and she will hunt cover all day on her own or with the crossbreeds and bark strong on foxes and will carry a hunt on for several miles.She would be a nightmare for many shooting lads but is priceless to me.I bred her last year to a great beagle dog and the pups at 4 months are starting to follow lines,i have high hopes for them but time will tell.

[Ideation 8,216]

I couldn't decide if this should go in the hound or terrier section, but figured that folk here would have experianced a good range of different dogs used for the above job.

 

I'm looking for a dog to work the cover, both small type - hedges, brambles, ditches etc, and also bigger spots like woodland, cover crops etc.

 

The dog would be used for rabbits and also for flushing larger stuff ( i do a lot of travelling to places where this is legal), i would really like it NOT to go to ground, as we have a lot of difficult places, and would also like it to speak when on it's quarrys ass, or maybe also on very hot scent.

 

I am really open to pures or cross breeds, but would prefer something with not too much spaniel, and would not go for a pure spaniel.

 

I would like something to be able to hunt independantly, but not to be tracking it down to the next county.

 

I would like a dog able to get stuck in if needed and not just flush.

 

Any ideas? ( I know its a lot of asks)

Springer/beagle crosses suit us,hunt hard all day and plenty of voice.breeding is everything as in all working dogs.a lot of shite out there.

 

Sounds interesting, any pics? Does the spaniel cut down on the beagle running too far ahead?

 

Like i said - im surprised there are not folk out there with good tested lines of bushers, rather than pure breeds or first x's.

Well the spaniel does cut down on them running on but if they are any good they will hunt on to a certain extent.I have a springer here that would be no good to a shooting man but i have her steady and obedient and she will hunt cover all day on her own or with the crossbreeds and bark strong on foxes and will carry a hunt on for several miles.She would be a nightmare for many shooting lads but is priceless to me.I bred her last year to a great beagle dog and the pups at 4 months are starting to follow lines,i have high hopes for them but time will tell.

 

They sound interesting mate.

 

That's my issue regarding the spaniels, my father is a spaniel man, and for me to have a springer running on, hunting up and giving tonge etc, i wouldnt hear the end of it

[rob190364 2,594]

I couldn't decide if this should go in the hound or terrier section, but figured that folk here would have experianced a good range of different dogs used for the above job.

 

I'm looking for a dog to work the cover, both small type - hedges, brambles, ditches etc, and also bigger spots like woodland, cover crops etc.

 

The dog would be used for rabbits and also for flushing larger stuff ( i do a lot of travelling to places where this is legal), i would really like it NOT to go to ground, as we have a lot of difficult places, and would also like it to speak when on it's quarrys ass, or maybe also on very hot scent.

 

I am really open to pures or cross breeds, but would prefer something with not too much spaniel, and would not go for a pure spaniel.

 

I would like something to be able to hunt independantly, but not to be tracking it down to the next county.

 

I would like a dog able to get stuck in if needed and not just flush.

 

Any ideas? ( I know its a lot of asks)

Springer/beagle crosses suit us,hunt hard all day and plenty of voice.breeding is everything as in all working dogs.a lot of shite out there.

 

Sounds interesting, any pics? Does the spaniel cut down on the beagle running too far ahead?

 

Like i said - im surprised there are not folk out there with good tested lines of bushers, rather than pure breeds or first x's.

Well the spaniel does cut down on them running on but if they are any good they will hunt on to a certain extent.I have a springer here that would be no good to a shooting man but i have her steady and obedient and she will hunt cover all day on her own or with the crossbreeds and bark strong on foxes and will carry a hunt on for several miles.She would be a nightmare for many shooting lads but is priceless to me.I bred her last year to a great beagle dog and the pups at 4 months are starting to follow lines,i have high hopes for them but time will tell.

 

They sound interesting mate.

 

That's my issue regarding the spaniels, my father is a spaniel man, and for me to have a springer running on, hunting up and giving tonge etc, i wouldnt hear the end of it

bud, I remember someone from a little while back who has the solution you are looking for.......

 

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/125340-the-ultimate-bushing-dog-and-vermin-exterminator/page__hl__%2Bultimate+%2Bbushing+%2Bdog__fromsearch__1

 

THE EXTERMINATOR!!!! :laugh:

 

...how about a GWP?

[derekbrown 176]

I couldn't decide if this should go in the hound or terrier section, but figured that folk here would have experianced a good range of different dogs used for the above job.

 

I'm looking for a dog to work the cover, both small type - hedges, brambles, ditches etc, and also bigger spots like woodland, cover crops etc.

 

The dog would be used for rabbits and also for flushing larger stuff ( i do a lot of travelling to places where this is legal), i would really like it NOT to go to ground, as we have a lot of difficult places, and would also like it to speak when on it's quarrys ass, or maybe also on very hot scent.

 

I am really open to pures or cross breeds, but would prefer something with not too much spaniel, and would not go for a pure spaniel.

 

I would like something to be able to hunt independantly, but not to be tracking it down to the next county.

 

I would like a dog able to get stuck in if needed and not just flush.

 

Any ideas? ( I know its a lot of asks)

Springer/beagle crosses suit us,hunt hard all day and plenty of voice.breeding is everything as in all working dogs.a lot of shite out there.

 

Sounds interesting, any pics? Does the spaniel cut down on the beagle running too far ahead?

 

Like i said - im surprised there are not folk out there with good tested lines of bushers, rather than pure breeds or first x's.

Well the spaniel does cut down on them running on but if they are any good they will hunt on to a certain extent.I have a springer here that would be no good to a shooting man but i have her steady and obedient and she will hunt cover all day on her own or with the crossbreeds and bark strong on foxes and will carry a hunt on for several miles.She would be a nightmare for many shooting lads but is priceless to me.I bred her last year to a great beagle dog and the pups at 4 months are starting to follow lines,i have high hopes for them but time will tell.

 

They sound interesting mate.

 

That's my issue regarding the spaniels, my father is a spaniel man, and for me to have a springer running on, hunting up and giving tonge etc, i wouldnt hear the end of it

Well if you are used to spaniels as shooting/trial dogs then mine would horrify you but they do the job i need of them.I still say though that a good springer/beagle or teagle would suit you.

[trinder 127]

A terrier beagle mix has allways interested me for cover work , a young lad that lives up the road from me has a 10 week old pup and its a cracker , he had a few bunny skins off me and it goes mad everytime it sees one bloody pup speaks better than a few adult dogs ive seen

Atb Trinder

[Mick C. 229]

Had a pair of what i would describe as mongerel lurchers

 

Dont know the exact breeding of them althouh i do know there was deerhound and a fair bit of lab and maybe a touch of bull inthem

 

Very game animals.They would enter any cover and work all day.

 

Even getting down on there bellies and dragging themselves through tight low bramble.

 

I would be looking for a small type lurcher with plenty of bushing types in him

 

A complete one off to suit your purpose

 

 

[paulus 26]

why not just use a lurcher mine will do all you are asking a dog to do and more and there not small either 25tts