help please

[madhunter 16]

can anybody tell me if lucky dark desroyer is still alive and if he threw any good pups

[brookie 1,193]

yes hes still alive he sired tina she won the foley cup

[snoopdog 1,256]

tina is out of lucky .... :thumbs-up: mmmmmmmm..could be an interesting breeding.....

[brock 11]

from what i can make out he sired a hell of a lot of pups,most of them turning out to be jackers,but what a dog he was

[snoopdog 1,256]

from what i can make out he sired a hell of a lot of pups,most of them turning out to be jackers,but what a dog he was

your spot on there brock ....

[Guest Frank]

Strange that, in it. A dog so good, well known ect, then his pups turn out mostly not good

A big risk this coursing thing?

 

Frank.

[samba 534]

from what i can make out he sired a hell of a lot of pups,most of them turning out to be jackers,but what a dog he was

might have something to do with the mother to the pups aswell

cannot just blame the sire

[Autumnbriar 0]

I worked for Penny Chenery ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Chenery ), many moons ago.... she was the owner of Secrateriat..... and for the most part most of his offspring floundered, but what she found was if linebred the line did quiet well......

[luke 2]

i think its all to do with the breeding.if you are going to mate lurcher to lurcher

you have got to make sure they are similar in temprement and performance

as it is a mistake to try and add some thing to a lurcher from a lurcher

especialy from a saluki saturated strain as they are funny animals

at the best of times.lucky is the grand father to my pup who is 9

months old and would run through a brick wall to get her game

but this might be off her fathers side who is a whippetxgreyhound

and would die before he would quit.

 

 

[Autumnbriar 0]

Nice looking dog there.....

[Guest bluemoon]

from what i can make out he sired a hell of a lot of pups,most of them turning out to be jackers,but what a dog he was

might have something to do with the mother to the pups aswell

cannot just blame the sire

 

my thoughts aswell,was he ever put to any good bitches??

[Border Terrier 0]

A stud dog is only as good as what he can produce. If you put a good dog to a variety of good bitches and he doesnt throw anything worthwhile then he cant be called a good stud dog or prepotent I think the correct word? It doesnt matter how good a dog is, if he cant reproduce himself well then theres no point using him over your bitch. Its best to always try to use a dog thats not only proven in his field ie coursing, digging or whatever, but also a dog that has consistently sired good pups with the same sort of qualities he himself possesses.

[Autumnbriar 0]

I'm kinda on the fence on that point, any dog that has provided good sport, put dinner on the table, or fed the kennel several times, is still a valuable dog..... and I also believe a lot is what a person puts into the dog. My last years litter of lurchers of 9 pups 7 were put into working homes and currently all 7 have started, two have gone into pet situations, and one of them is total rubbish, extremely skiddish, and unhandled ... ruined I would say. I think such happens more than enough.

[luke 2]

I'm kinda on the fence on that point, any dog that has provided good sport, put dinner on the table, or fed the kennel several times, is still a valuable dog..... and I also believe a lot is what a person puts into the dog. My last years litter of lurchers of 9 pups 7 were put into working homes and currently all 7 have started, two have gone into pet situations, and one of them is total rubbish, extremely skiddish, and unhandled ... ruined I would say. I think such happens more than enough.

that is very true if some body goes out to see dog run that hasnt been

conditioned right and it runs shit the whole litter could be slated even

though the rest could be doing well you only get out what you put

in but got to agree with border terrier as there has got to be some thing

there to work with to begin with

[skycat 6,174]

My mother always had a saying "if you see a good dog.....DON'T use him, USE his father" seems sensible to me.

 

Good saying that: having agreed with the statement I have used the son of a dog who was better than his offspring and produced good animals: pups also throw back to the grandparents.