MOO 730 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Got no idea mate. Like I said it was a visit day and the terrier man was asked to try bolt one for the gun! Rusty came out right behind as he does normally with his regular pack! I have seen him run with the hounds for half hour before he was caught and put back on the bike. If this was how this terrier worked then maybe he wasnt suited for working with hounds ... Can you put a time on the terrier coming out behind a bolted fox?? The fox comes out then the terrier comes out simple everybody knows that. The wee dog has went in and done what was asked of it, Fecking bad news that it was killed by the hounds so lukey you disagree with what I wrote ? Well if I understand your comment right you ment the terrier shouldnt have came out in hot persuit of the fox that he/she had just bolted?There is always the chance of the terrier coming out right on the foxes arse, and Id say most if allowed to will go and look for the fox. What would the terrier that was suited for the job have done? By the way I have never been out with a hunt so dont know anything about hounds, but for the wee dog to be wasted by hounds in my books is pure shite. Quote Link to post
lukey 1,621 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) I see what your saying, I cant really comment on hunting with hounds, but I cant see what the wee dog has done wrong? Am I just chatting shit and the terrier was asking for it? Edited January 31, 2012 by lukey Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I see what your saying, I cant really comment on hunting with hounds, but I cant see what the wee dog has done wrong? Am I just chatting shit and the terrier was asking for it? Your obviously like me on this topic mate and your personal opinion doesn't matter cause you have little experience in the matter. Facts are if an uncontrollable dog whether it be a hound, lurcher, terrier or any dog killed my dog then it would have the same fate. If anyone thinks thats odd then i find that weird but there entitled to there opinion. I'm away to my final shoot of the year today and theres a boy there in his 's who's grown up with the hunt, i'll ask him what he thinks of the situation. Quote Link to post
BEARINATOR 2,867 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) I see what your saying, I cant really comment on hunting with hounds, but I cant see what the wee dog has done wrong? Am I just chatting shit and the terrier was asking for it? The terrier made the mistake of following the fox out and following it's scent mate and hounds are bred for the 1 job (no disrespect to the hounds or hunters intended) , enjoy your day Lab but I ain't on our last day as I'm feeling lazy Edited February 1, 2012 by BEARINATOR Quote Link to post
MOO 730 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) I see what your saying, I cant really comment on hunting with hounds, but I cant see what the wee dog has done wrong? Am I just chatting shit and the terrier was asking for it? Your obviously like me on this topic mate and your personal opinion doesn't matter cause you have little experience in the matter. Facts are if an uncontrollable dog whether it be a hound, lurcher, terrier or any dog killed my dog then it would have the same fate. If anyone thinks thats odd then i find that weird but there entitled to there opinion. I'm away to my final shoot of the year today and theres a boy there in his 's who's grown up with the hunt, i'll ask him what he thinks of the situation. why was the hound or hounds uncontrolable ...and I am a terrier man for a pack of hounds lab so I do have a little knowledge on the topic this is how I see it the terrier was called rusty ...that gives us a clue to what colour it was ...the lad who started the topic said the the terrier is knowen or allowed to follow his fox after bolting with his own pack ...so I will put it this way if a lad came to our hunt and said his terrier often bolted with the fox and followed the hounds I would advice not to put the dog to ground and did the lad tell all involved that thats what the terrier often did. No one will put up with a terrier killing hound but if I read correctly the terrier was ontop and the hounds were on so the hounds met an unknowen red terrier in cover smelling of fox its inevitable what was going to happen and imo the hounds should never been put in that circumstances in the first place Edited February 1, 2012 by MOO 5 Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I see what your saying, I cant really comment on hunting with hounds, but I cant see what the wee dog has done wrong? Am I just chatting shit and the terrier was asking for it? Your obviously like me on this topic mate and your personal opinion doesn't matter cause you have little experience in the matter. Facts are if an uncontrollable dog whether it be a hound, lurcher, terrier or any dog killed my dog then it would have the same fate. If anyone thinks thats odd then i find that weird but there entitled to there opinion. I'm away to my final shoot of the year today and theres a boy there in his 's who's grown up with the hunt, i'll ask him what he thinks of the situation. why was the hound or hounds uncontrolable ...and I am a terrier man for a pack of hounds lab so I do have a little knowledge on the topic this is how I see it the terrier was called rusty ...that gives us a clue to what colour it was ...the lad who started the topic said the the terrier is knowen or allowed to follow his fox after bolting with his own pack ...so I will put it this way if a lad came to our hunt and said his terrier often bolted with the fox and followed the hounds I would advice not to put the dog to ground and did the lad tell all involved that thats what the terrier often did. No one will put up with a terrier killing hound but if I read correctly the terrier was ontop and the hounds were on so the hounds met an unknowen red terrier in cover smelling of fox its inevitable what was going to happen and imo the hounds should never been put in that circumstances in the first place I know of packs that are very keen as they should be.If you take chances a accident can and could happen. Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 The terrierman is responsible for his terrier no one else. 1 Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 No one will put up with a terrier killing hound but if I read correctly the terrier was ontop and the hounds were on so the hounds met an unknowen red terrier in cover smelling of fox its inevitable what was going to happen and imo the hounds should never been put in that circumstances in the first place Wasn't that the very reason why white terriers were historically favoured for bolting fox to waiting hounds? Quote Link to post
lukey 1,621 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I see what your saying, I cant really comment on hunting with hounds, but I cant see what the wee dog has done wrong? Am I just chatting shit and the terrier was asking for it? Your obviously like me on this topic mate and your personal opinion doesn't matter cause you have little experience in the matter. Facts are if an uncontrollable dog whether it be a hound, lurcher, terrier or any dog killed my dog then it would have the same fate. If anyone thinks thats odd then i find that weird but there entitled to there opinion. I'm away to my final shoot of the year today and theres a boy there in his 's who's grown up with the hunt, i'll ask him what he thinks of the situation. why was the hound or hounds uncontrolable ...and I am a terrier man for a pack of hounds lab so I do have a little knowledge on the topic this is how I see it the terrier was called rusty ...that gives us a clue to what colour it was ...the lad who started the topic said the the terrier is knowen or allowed to follow his fox after bolting with his own pack ...so I will put it this way if a lad came to our hunt and said his terrier often bolted with the fox and followed the hounds I would advice not to put the dog to ground and did the lad tell all involved that thats what the terrier often did. No one will put up with a terrier killing hound but if I read correctly the terrier was ontop and the hounds were on so the hounds met an unknowen red terrier in cover smelling of fox its inevitable what was going to happen and imo the hounds should never been put in that circumstances in the first place If this was what you posted at first I would never have even thought about posting on this thread. IMO the terrier man who owned the dog is to blame here for giving the terrier the chance of running after the fox, wouldnt most if not all terriers do the same if allowed to? Shame this happened to the wee dog either way. Quote Link to post
BEARINATOR 2,867 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 No one will put up with a terrier killing hound but if I read correctly the terrier was ontop and the hounds were on so the hounds met an unknowen red terrier in cover smelling of fox its inevitable what was going to happen and imo the hounds should never been put in that circumstances in the first place Wasn't that the very reason why white terriers were historically favoured for bolting fox to waiting hounds? Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I see what your saying, I cant really comment on hunting with hounds, but I cant see what the wee dog has done wrong? Am I just chatting shit and the terrier was asking for it? Your obviously like me on this topic mate and your personal opinion doesn't matter cause you have little experience in the matter. Facts are if an uncontrollable dog whether it be a hound, lurcher, terrier or any dog killed my dog then it would have the same fate. If anyone thinks thats odd then i find that weird but there entitled to there opinion. I'm away to my final shoot of the year today and theres a boy there in his 's who's grown up with the hunt, i'll ask him what he thinks of the situation. why was the hound or hounds uncontrolable ...and I am a terrier man for a pack of hounds lab so I do have a little knowledge on the topic this is how I see it the terrier was called rusty ...that gives us a clue to what colour it was ...the lad who started the topic said the the terrier is knowen or allowed to follow his fox after bolting with his own pack ...so I will put it this way if a lad came to our hunt and said his terrier often bolted with the fox and followed the hounds I would advice not to put the dog to ground and did the lad tell all involved that thats what the terrier often did. No one will put up with a terrier killing hound but if I read correctly the terrier was ontop and the hounds were on so the hounds met an unknowen red terrier in cover smelling of fox its inevitable what was going to happen and imo the hounds should never been put in that circumstances in the first place i was always under impression dogs seen the world in greys an blue an yellow, an red was a difficult colour for them to see, coming out almost brown like so what does your terrier do whilst your working for the hounds moo?? does it come out after the bolted fox an come find you??? Quote Link to post
MOO 730 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I see what your saying, I cant really comment on hunting with hounds, but I cant see what the wee dog has done wrong? Am I just chatting shit and the terrier was asking for it? Your obviously like me on this topic mate and your personal opinion doesn't matter cause you have little experience in the matter. Facts are if an uncontrollable dog whether it be a hound, lurcher, terrier or any dog killed my dog then it would have the same fate. If anyone thinks thats odd then i find that weird but there entitled to there opinion. I'm away to my final shoot of the year today and theres a boy there in his 's who's grown up with the hunt, i'll ask him what he thinks of the situation. why was the hound or hounds uncontrolable ...and I am a terrier man for a pack of hounds lab so I do have a little knowledge on the topic this is how I see it the terrier was called rusty ...that gives us a clue to what colour it was ...the lad who started the topic said the the terrier is knowen or allowed to follow his fox after bolting with his own pack ...so I will put it this way if a lad came to our hunt and said his terrier often bolted with the fox and followed the hounds I would advice not to put the dog to ground and did the lad tell all involved that thats what the terrier often did. No one will put up with a terrier killing hound but if I read correctly the terrier was ontop and the hounds were on so the hounds met an unknowen red terrier in cover smelling of fox its inevitable what was going to happen and imo the hounds should never been put in that circumstances in the first place i was always under impression dogs seen the world in greys an blue an yellow, an red was a difficult colour for them to see, coming out almost brown like so what does your terrier do whilst your working for the hounds moo?? does it come out after the bolted fox an come find you??? Dotty you are stalking me ...how much experiance do you have with hounds and terriers Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I see what your saying, I cant really comment on hunting with hounds, but I cant see what the wee dog has done wrong? Am I just chatting shit and the terrier was asking for it? Your obviously like me on this topic mate and your personal opinion doesn't matter cause you have little experience in the matter. Facts are if an uncontrollable dog whether it be a hound, lurcher, terrier or any dog killed my dog then it would have the same fate. If anyone thinks thats odd then i find that weird but there entitled to there opinion. I'm away to my final shoot of the year today and theres a boy there in his 's who's grown up with the hunt, i'll ask him what he thinks of the situation. why was the hound or hounds uncontrolable ...and I am a terrier man for a pack of hounds lab so I do have a little knowledge on the topic this is how I see it the terrier was called rusty ...that gives us a clue to what colour it was ...the lad who started the topic said the the terrier is knowen or allowed to follow his fox after bolting with his own pack ...so I will put it this way if a lad came to our hunt and said his terrier often bolted with the fox and followed the hounds I would advice not to put the dog to ground and did the lad tell all involved that thats what the terrier often did. No one will put up with a terrier killing hound but if I read correctly the terrier was ontop and the hounds were on so the hounds met an unknowen red terrier in cover smelling of fox its inevitable what was going to happen and imo the hounds should never been put in that circumstances in the first place i was always under impression dogs seen the world in greys an blue an yellow, an red was a difficult colour for them to see, coming out almost brown like so what does your terrier do whilst your working for the hounds moo?? does it come out after the bolted fox an come find you??? Dotty you are stalking me ...how much experiance do you have with hounds and terriers stalking you thats right the whole world revolves round you moo, why cant you answer the question, wasnae a difficult yin 1 Quote Link to post
MOO 730 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I f a terrier is the same colour as a fox the hounds will see it in the exact same shade as they would a fox We had a red terrier to ground yesterday and in no way would it be allowed to hunt with hounds not just because of its colour but there were a few new hounds out and both spots were in thick whins so while one of us followed the dog while to ground the other were at the entrances to lift the dog . Instead of nit picking at me read the posts and keep it to the fact s ... the terrier was ontop and the hounds were on so they met an unknowen red terrier in cover smelling of fox its inevitable what was going to happen and imo the hounds should never been put in that circumstances in the first place Most of the time you will no when your going to get a bolt so can prepare to lift the terrier and like I have already said it was a strange terrier with a strange pack allowed to hunt on top Hope that has answered your question Dotty ...now answer mine how much experiance have you with terriers and hounds ? Quote Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I f a terrier is the same colour as a fox the hounds will see it in the exact same shade as they would a fox We had a red terrier to ground yesterday and in no way would it be allowed to hunt with hounds not just because of its colour but there were a few new hounds out and both spots were in thick whins so while one of us followed the dog while to ground the other were at the entrances to lift the dog . Instead of nit picking at me read the posts and keep it to the fact s ... the terrier was ontop and the hounds were on so they met an unknowen red terrier in cover smelling of fox its inevitable what was going to happen and imo the hounds should never been put in that circumstances in the first place Most of the time you will no when your going to get a bolt so can prepare to lift the terrier and like I have already said it was a strange terrier with a strange pack allowed to hunt on top Hope that has answered your question Dotty ...now answer mine how much experiance have you with terriers and hounds ? Do you have to have much experience to have an opinion based almost entirely on common sense? FTB 1 Quote Link to post
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