Walkerburn Angel 0 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 nice pup mate, good luck with it Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Just in case anyoneisshort on something to have a dig about. . . we now have in our mooching team. - A Minshaw. - A Hancock blooded dog. - A Whippet. - A Bull x. So we just need to start hanging out with Mister Brick and we will tick all the boxes P.S - All this stuff about Dons age. You can measure a dogs 'experiance' in years or game on the deck, and there are plenty of 5/6 year old dogs that have not seen or taken what he has. I look forward to meeting all concerend again, and picking up another pup at some point in the future 2 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 johnny boy i dont really see your point mate? im not critisizing the lads for the way there dog is bred thats up to them if its suits the land they run etc what i was trying to make sense of is how a dog can be called a minshaw if its more collie than lurcher but poachers explained it well enough. if your breeding pups off a young dog and gifting them to working homes the only people it matters to is the people who have to feed them and clean up there shit. myself i prefer a pup bred off older dogs cos some can look good in the first season or two then jack or whatever when pushed harder so i like a dog and bitch thats done loads so there tested to the full. but thats just me not evrybodys the same What I was getting at Toby was you liked a post earlier in the thread about breeding off Don, not having a go or looking for an argument just stating that young coursing dogs are up for stud on a regular basis and not cheap either. And you being a coursing man just wondered what your thoughts were. When I was offered the pup I jumped at the chance, has I said earlier Don is a youngish dog but he's been tested a lot harder than some dogs twice his age. The thing is do you rate a dog worthy of breeding off because of age or game its put away? Its a double edged sword and whatever people do will not settle well with some, thats human nature. Like I said I'm well happy with the pup and the efforts that Andy's lad went to get it to me and the young lad can only be applauded for that, these lads ain't in this game for money but for the love of the lurcher game something that comes across when you talk to them, something we don't see to often these days. 6 Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Just in case any one is short on something to have a dig about. . . we now have in our mooching team. - A Minshaw. - A Hancock blooded dog. - A Whippet. - A Bull x. :laugh: Quote Link to post
frankel 2,123 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Imo the flying carpet was the best dog to run from our kennels lol Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Andy.. that old man Jack look's a machine even in his older day's.. Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Just in case anyoneisshort on something to have a dig about. . . we now have in our mooching team. - A Minshaw. - A Hancock blooded dog. - A Whippet. - A Bull x. So we just need to start hanging out with Mister Brick and we will tick all the boxes P.S - All this stuff about Dons age. You can measure a dogs 'experiance' in years or game on the deck, and there are plenty of 5/6 year old dogs that have not seen or taken what he has. I look forward to meeting all concerend again, and picking up another pup at some point in the future Keep your ears open for any Plummer terriers around......haha !! Quote Link to post
moonlighter 1,163 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Great pictures.....I personally like the look of these dogs. Put a decent picture up of the pups dam. Cheers Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Just in case anyoneisshort on something to have a dig about. . . we now have in our mooching team. - A Minshaw. - A Hancock blooded dog. - A Whippet. - A Bull x. So we just need to start hanging out with Mister Brick and we will tick all the boxes P.S - All this stuff about Dons age. You can measure a dogs 'experiance' in years or game on the deck, and there are plenty of 5/6 year old dogs that have not seen or taken what he has. I look forward to meeting all concerend again, and picking up another pup at some point in the future with the breeding of these pups , they should do very well no prob. But from what was said i think regards the age think, these is some sence in what was said. Because some dogs do really well when young say 2-3 seasons, then some can just not shine as good the next seasons. Not saying it will be the case here , but it can+does happen, thats why a older sire or dam can be better either with good feet after 5-6 years, or still a full on temp,as some dogs can not give 100% as they get older.!! 1 Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,285 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Andy.. that old man Jack look's a machine even in his older day's.. That dog was a proper dog mate..NEVER lame bar for an odd knock but never held up in his work due to lameness and believe me he never sat in his kennel all his life ..a big miss he is to me..best buddies we were .ATB Andy. 2 Quote Link to post
killa-combo 142 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Nice pup there jhonny hope does you proud, these should be handy pot fillers, certainly showing good sighns of confidence in mine shes got a evil streak to her latley, hopefully see them all run in the comeing seasons atb mw-89 4 Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,285 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Just to reply to what Bird and Toby and also Mackay mentioned about a dog running for several good seasons before mateing bitches which is a very fair point BUT i'm pretty confident this dog Don will run and keep on running lol..his sire Jack was running at the top of his game at 10..Nighttimenellie,Dodger and others witnessed it countless times..Jack's sire Bulpa killed more in one blackweek at the age of ten then many dogs would catch in a whole season..i ain't being big-headed or i hope i don't come across that way when i say that but telling porkies ain't my style..these dogs have longevity built in them when it comes to grafting and i see no reason why the Don dog will be any different to his ancestors? I guess time will tell but if i had the money i'd bet the whole darn lot (as i like a bet) that barring injury or death this dog will be amassing big hauls for many many seasons to come and never look like throwing in the towel. ATB Andy. 1 Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Keep your ears open for any Plummer terriers around......haha !! I have one he might be firing blank's at nearly 14 but you can put him over your bitch next week if you want.. 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Just to reply to what Bird and Toby and also Mackay mentioned about a dog running for several good seasons before mateing bitches which is a very fair point BUT i'm pretty confident this dog Don will run and keep on running lol..his sire Jack was running at the top of his game at 10..Nighttimenellie,Dodger and others witnessed it countless times..Jack's sire Bulpa killed more in one blackweek at the age of ten then many dogs would catch in a whole season..i ain't being big-headed or i hope i don't come across that way when i say that but telling porkies ain't my style..these dogs have longevity built in them when it comes to grafting and i see no reason why the Don dog will be any different to his ancestors? I guess time will tell but if i had the money i'd bet the whole darn lot (as i like a bet) that barring injury or death this dog will be amassing big hauls for many many seasons to come and never look like throwing in the towel. ATB Andy. you prob right Andy with( forebears) as Don comes from good stuff no dout about . But you know as well as anybody, that not all in the same litter do always follow suit. But the young dog going well so far, so lets hope he continues . 1 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Keep your ears open for any Plummer terriers around......haha !! I have one he might be firing blank's at nearly 14 but you can put him over your bitch next week if you want.. Haha........14 and not sagging at all, wish I could say the same. Quote Link to post
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