thurso jack 3 Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Right im having a discussion on another non hunting forum regarding cats and there is a cat lover there who states cat owners are not to be held responsible for there cats, now i have heard this before but he then he also states a landowner cannot legally remove the cat i.e shoot it etc if it is casuing damage to livestock or birds. its all hypotheticall talk but id appreaciate if anyone could fill me in on what is correct or not? he/she is starting to annoy me and i cant find anything specific on the internet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
highlander 0 Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Just read the post on caithness.org. Best thing to do would be to take the cat to the rspca as a lost cat means that the owner will have to go and collect it. We get alot of feral cats up here especial round the farms Im forever catching them in my cages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thurso jack 3 Posted April 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Just read the post on caithness.org. Best thing to do would be to take the cat to the rspca as a lost cat means that the owner will have to go and collect it. We get alot of feral cats up here especial round the farms Im forever catching them in my cages. yes i told him this but what are the landowners legal rights? is a cat protected if it is causing a nuisance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lampinglurcher 36 Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 a shot to the head with the 22-250 sorts 'em right out - then just chuck it in a hole and fill with soil... easy! since moving to where i live now, there are significantly less cats in the village - dont know why :whistle: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 I know scotland has slightly different laws to England and wales, but i think this is the same. A cat is not owned it is a wild animal (regardless of what anyone thinks the law considers them wild-in the road traffic act you dont have to report a car accident with a cat, unlike a dog or livestock) and as a wild animal belongs to no one but becomes the property of the landowner when dead.....work that out for yourself no one owns it until you shoot it dead on your land, then its corpse is yours to do with as you please thats why the "owners" are not liable for any animals/stock it kills/worries (poultry etc..), but the same law also makes them legitimate targets :whistle: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Cats are recognised in law as domestic animal!! its when the they revert back to living in the wild ie; returning to a feral existance that they become a pest. if you have cats living on your land and they are feral?? you are allowed to control them!! and that means culling them by shooting or any other lawful means. To say a cat cannot be owned is a nonsense!! some people spend hundreds/thousands of pounds on a cat?? (personally I would'nt give them house-room) Anyone who knowingly or purposely kills some-one's pet moggie is up shit creek without a paddle if caught!! In my opinion anyone controlling feral cats "carry on"" but you dont need to advertise it!! In a nutshell, its legal to control feral cats but not domestic moggies Domestic or Feral?? thats the dillema for the pest contoller Tom I know scotland has slightly different laws to England and wales, but i think this is the same. A cat is not owned it is a wild animal (regardless of what anyone thinks the law considers them wild-in the road traffic act you dont have to report a car accident with a cat, unlike a dog or livestock) and as a wild animal belongs to no one but becomes the property of the landowner when dead.....work that out for yourself no one owns it until you shoot it dead on your land, then its corpse is yours to do with as you please thats why the "owners" are not liable for any animals/stock it kills/worries (poultry etc..), but the same law also makes them legitimate targets :whistle: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest markbrick1 Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 if say your dog kills a cat on land you own are got permission on the cat owner cant do anything, ive just been down the avenue with police and solicitor, if you run over a cat by law you dont have to inform anybody, a dog sheep horse yes you have to, a cat no Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Any cat that comes on to the place where I live gets a name straight of... I call them "Feral" they are that dumb, they thow themseves into the line of fire when I shoot at a rat :whistle: allways trying to get there first I think. . JD Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawn B 212 Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 (edited) I think folks you will find you cannot legally control Cats, Id like to see anything that states you can. people are often prosecuted for having dogs dangerously out of control when harming pet cats and have been fined heavily and in a couple instances had their "dangerous" dogs taken away. You cannoy legally shoot a Cat either as there is NO clarification of a feral or pet cat, although I appreciate the need to control ferals. If you want to go the "wild animal" route, you cant "hunt" them either. Owners are not legally responsible for their cats actions. Dawn. Edited April 23, 2007 by Dawn B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 just thought i would start this off again, i am right, here's the proof! cut this from the below link "Legal status of cats: At present cats have no legal status in law (they are deemed to be wild animals) and so people are not legally obliged to report any incident involving a cat (as they would if it were a dog). Similarly a stray cay can be put down without efforts having been made to find the owner, unlike the situation for dogs. Policyholders believe that a change in the law is merited to equalise the status of cats and dogs." http://www.dianawallismep.org.uk/news/0000...SESSID=801ceb21 You can therefore kill any cats you want, as above, putting down stray cats! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Below is the section of the road traffic act that defines in law what animals you must report to police if you run over, so the owners can sue you for cost's of vetinary treatment etc.. 170.—(1) This section applies in a case where, owing to the presence of a motor vehicle on a road, an accident occurs by which— (a) personal injury is caused to a person other than the driver of that motor vehicle, or ( damage is caused— (i) to a vehicle other than that motor vehicle or a trailer drawn by that motor vehicle, or (ii) to an animal other than an animal in or on that motor vehicle or a trailer drawn by that motor vehicle, or (iii) to any other property constructed on, fixed to, growing in or otherwise forming part of the land on which the road in question is situated or land adjacent to such land. (2) The driver of the motor vehicle must stop and, if required to do so by any person having reasonable grounds for so requiring, give his name and address and also the name and address of the owner and the identification marks of the vehicle. road traffic act excludes cats (In this section "animal" means horse, cattle, ass, mule, sheep, pig, goat or dog. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880052_en_8.htm Cat's have no status in LAW, the arguments for ownership are difficult when the cat is out and about, the cat that never leaves the house can be argued to be "owned" but an exact legal definition of ownership is hard as more than one person can have a material interest in an item/animal. I would argue that a cat on your land is yours. And where is the legal definition of FERAL????a cat not sat on a sofa and outside could be deemed to be feral by being out for 20minutes, there is no legal definition of how long it needs to be loose to be feral, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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