Carraghs Gem 1,675 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) 2/3 strikes if i like the dog, if it fails theres plenty of lads looking for ratting, bushing dogs as long as your straight up with them why your getting rid and you take the time to sift through the peddlars and timewasters just gave a pup to a lad this week that was too small and clever for my liking. And add to the evergrowing list of people breeding failed workers? FTB pup wasnt a failed worker, just didnt suit me. Edited January 26, 2012 by Carraghs Gem Quote Link to post
wexford Pa 84 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Not harsh thats how I go with it if their is fire in the belly, and the proper breeding is their it shouldnt take alot to see if thier keen or not. If they seem keen and aint doing what I want from them its no point keeping a dog that talks the talk and dont walk the walk but each terriermens yard differs. Thats just what i do and it works for me. so what age do u begin ur '2 strike rule'? I dont go on 2strikre rule its how I see my terrier work I no my terriers if i see their is potential ill keep him if i see none his gone thats how i roll. it varies but i go on my instinct i no whats in my terriers and what im looking for . Usually 12 months on. Some are gamer little earlier and some later I no when there ready or not. exactly, i know what u mean now, yea dogs are different some have little interest & some are over eager but dont know exactly what to do @ 12 months so ya hold em back a bit, but ya know urself if a dog needs holding back or a dog himself is holding back.. If ye know what i mean.. Hope that makes sense Quote Link to post
tillearthdouspart 100 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Not harsh thats how I go with it if their is fire in the belly, and the proper breeding is their it shouldnt take alot to see if thier keen or not. If they seem keen and aint doing what I want from them its no point keeping a dog that talks the talk and dont walk the walk but each terriermens yard differs. Thats just what i do and it works for me. so what age do u begin ur '2 strike rule'? I dont go on 2strikre rule its how I see my terrier work I no my terriers if i see their is potential ill keep him if i see none his gone thats how i roll. it varies but i go on my instinct i no whats in my terriers and what im looking for . Usually 12 months on. Some are gamer little earlier and some later I no when there ready or not. exactly, i know what u mean now, yea dogs are different some have little interest & some are over eager but dont know exactly what to do @ 12 months so ya hold em back a bit, but ya know urself if a dog needs holding back or a dog himself is holding back.. If ye know what i mean.. Hope that makes sense Yeah of course. Just we all no our own terriers and what their generation did before. So you can go on that a little, and we all have a certain standard we want our terriers to be. They do mature at different time, I think from my terriers anyway the bitches are more mature and ready to work at usually 12 mths like to be honest and im not gloating but i had pups at eleven mnt smash up big dog foxes and some out a the same litter just wont look at one. But have came across guys trying to tell me im doing wrong leave them till 18 mths tat may be in his yard doesnt mean it has to be in mine. 1 Quote Link to post
wexford Pa 84 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 @ tillearthdouspart No mate ur right, i like a dog that starts around the 12 month mark, but i like like to start em early then leave em off for a bit, last 2 pups ive started were april pups (different years) so it was difficult, i gave the bitch something late in the season but the dog started a fresh season @ 18 months, both dug to on the 1st time to ground... Ive a pup here now (also april pup) and im certain if dropped now he'd be dug aswell but doesnt have the mental attitude to cope with any work yet, its about knowing the dog.. 1 Quote Link to post
digger. 615 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 iv a bitch in my yard nearly 9 months old now.very,very eager i no if i let her go now she wud do the job.imo at six to 7 months you should nearly no if ur terrier is eager to do what job u put to them.thats of course if your getting them out showing them the ropes etc,etc. 1 Quote Link to post
digger. 615 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 @ tillearthdouspart No mate ur right, i like a dog that starts around the 12 month mark, but i like like to start em early then leave em off for a bit, last 2 pups ive started were april pups (different years) so it was difficult, i gave the bitch something late in the season but the dog started a fresh season @ 18 months, both dug to on the 1st time to ground... Ive a pup here now (also april pup) and im certain if dropped now he'd be dug aswell but doesnt have the mental attitude to cope with any work yet, its about knowing the dog.. Quote Link to post
James Doyle 59 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 i meant two chances once entered pa Quote Link to post
tillearthdouspart 100 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 @ tillearthdouspart No mate ur right, i like a dog that starts around the 12 month mark, but i like like to start em early then leave em off for a bit, last 2 pups ive started were april pups (different years) so it was difficult, i gave the bitch something late in the season but the dog started a fresh season @ 18 months, both dug to on the 1st time to ground... Ive a pup here now (also april pup) and im certain if dropped now he'd be dug aswell but doesnt have the mental attitude to cope with any work yet, its about knowing the dog.. Its all about knowing your own workers. Quote Link to post
wexford Pa 84 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 i meant two chances once entered pa yea but old does he start em? Id understand if he had a dog workin and the dog came away or unentered in an occupied earth.? But to say he'd give a young pup 2 chances to enter is very rash,, Quote Link to post
wexford Pa 84 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 i meant two chances once entered pa sorry mate i know now, i read this post wrong.. Quote Link to post
slips 114 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 i think dogs that keep aving to be givin to many chances to look like being any sort of a earth dog should av a good hard look at its back ground .now were did that ole sayin come from EASY TO ENTER EASY TO SPOIL dogs from good proven lines jmvho 1 Quote Link to post
wexford Pa 84 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 i think dogs that keep aving to be givin to many chances to look like being any sort of a earth dog should av a good hard look at its back ground .now were did that ole sayin come from EASY TO ENTER EASY TO SPOIL dogs from good proven lines jmvho very true slips Quote Link to post
foxfan 479 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 It's always nice to have a young hooligan who sweeps all before him, but occasionaly a shy pup can develop into a very useful animal with time and gentle handling, but you have to see something to make you persevere. It's recognising that something thats the hard part. 1 Quote Link to post
GET THEM OUT (.)(.) 39 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 i no a fella that just gives them 2 chances if they dont make it out the door they go he must be a lucky man if he does actually own any working terriers Quote Link to post
dublin dezzy 1,023 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Good topic,we all have different ideas about bringing on terriers,many factors to consider, breeding, age,dogs temprament,everyone should know when there dog is ready,after rearing the dog to the best of your knowledge/ability and it does not work out,,, there is nothing worse,how many times do you keep trying the same dog,other things to consider when bringing on a pup are what it does when in the ground, thats if it does go..is it sounding away then coming out after x amount of time etc etc,so my answer to your question is,its down to the man who owns the dog to make that decision.unless you gave an instanceof something that happened no one can answer that question,imo Quote Link to post
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