latest craze in plymouth

[123456 146]

As I said lab I'm not getting into it so this will be my last reply! The birds are realised into the wild so they take there chances the same as any other animal. Bear in mind they also catch them wild and breed them before releasing them

[matt_hooks 188]

Here we go again. The "honourable poacher". Let's get this straight, once and for all, poaching IS stealing, by the very definition. I'm not getting in to the rights and wrongs, but poaching is theft, pure and simple.

[Swampy 147]

What the f**k are you arguing at Swampy? There poaching pheasants, sorry stealing pheasants........and i hope they get what they deserve!!!

Hey! I got no issue with them getting knicked for killing/poaching/stealing or whatever you want to call it.

I'm getting a different story about what went on the night they were knicked.

And I never believe what the papers say.

Not caling anyone a liar, Not advocating criminal activity Its all a bit odd. I have been promised more info after the pub shuts!

whether it'l be coherant is another matter!

Rgds

Swampy

7 nings to go

[RossM 8,119]

Bad Craic if it was a kill for thrill situation, reading between the lines I reckon the fourth man sung like a bird therefore well and truly dropping the other 3 in it, Im probably more than likely being thick but I can't get my head round how 3 can be done for possession of 2 firearms? As I said Im probably reading into it all wrong and being a bit stupid, the poaching thing? Yes it is stealing, yes it is against the law, but giving some circumstances I don't see it being as bad as some make out, one for the pot and that, if I was a keeper I'd rather loose 1 or two to an individual who's circumstances are for the right reasons than the x amount taken by old Charlie, or if it stopped the individual from robbing from the shops or other reasons unbeknown,

 

Also do birds get marked? If a bird flew onto another shoot would you know it was one of yours or would you steal it?

[123456 146]

Bad Craic if it was a kill for thrill situation, reading between the lines I reckon the fourth man sung like a bird therefore well and truly dropping the other 3 in it, Im probably more than likely being thick but I can't get my head round how 3 can be done for possession of 2 firearms? As I said Im probably reading into it all wrong and being a bit stupid, the poaching thing? Yes it is stealing, yes it is against the law, but giving some circumstances I don't see it being as bad as some make out, one for the pot and that, if I was a keeper I'd rather loose 1 or two to an individual who's circumstances are for the right reasons than the x amount taken by old Charlie, or if it stopped the individual from robbing from the shops or other reasons unbeknown,

 

Also do birds get marked? If a bird flew onto another shoot would you know it was one of yours or would you steal it?

 

the 4th lad is anything but a grass RM. Apparently he was caught in a different place to the rest of em and they firstly tried doing him through aquantaship or something because he was on the estate without transport

[RossM 8,119]

Bad Craic if it was a kill for thrill situation, reading between the lines I reckon the fourth man sung like a bird therefore well and truly dropping the other 3 in it, Im probably more than likely being thick but I can't get my head round how 3 can be done for possession of 2 firearms? As I said Im probably reading into it all wrong and being a bit stupid, the poaching thing? Yes it is stealing, yes it is against the law, but giving some circumstances I don't see it being as bad as some make out, one for the pot and that, if I was a keeper I'd rather loose 1 or two to an individual who's circumstances are for the right reasons than the x amount taken by old Charlie, or if it stopped the individual from robbing from the shops or other reasons unbeknown,

 

Also do birds get marked? If a bird flew onto another shoot would you know it was one of yours or would you steal it?

 

the 4th lad is anything but a grass RM. Apparently he was caught in a different place to the rest of em and they firstly tried doing him through aquantaship or something because he was on the estate without transport

 

Ok mate it's just the way It looked when I read it, you know how it is 4 get caught 3 get done and all that, cheers for clearing that up.

[Richie10 345]

Here we go again. The "honourable poacher". Let's get this straight, once and for all, poaching IS stealing, by the very definition. I'm not getting in to the rights and wrongs, but poaching is theft, pure and simple.

 

It's not.

Just you personally think it is, it's not. Look at the law.

 

Deer do not belong to anyone, nor does any other wildlife. Look it up.

Whether it is right or wrong can be argued. The fact is there is little public land in this country, while there is public land in other countries where you are allowed to hunt is a major difference.

 

Personally if the pheasant was on land I had or permission then it's fair game, like many of the 'wild' shoots or rough shooting. Going over to take pheasant from someones land who has taken the time to rear them, is wrong and poaching not stealing.

[scothunter 12,609]

I have poached pheasants in the past,and call it what you like,but it's theft they don't belong to you.its theft by the definition of the word.deer hares that's poaching and wouldn't class that theft at all. Get caught and go to court,and you will soon find out if it's theft or not.as for saying your not getting into it dances.well it just proves to me you don't know what the f**k your talking about.

 

So if it's not theft,I should go to asda tesco's clear thier shelfs of pheasants,and other wild game and walk out the door with it,and when I'm stopped and the cops are called and I'm charged with theft.i can say noooo it's poaching.

[secretagentmole 1,701]

Here we go again. The "honourable poacher". Let's get this straight, once and for all, poaching IS stealing, by the very definition. I'm not getting in to the rights and wrongs, but poaching is theft, pure and simple.

 

It's not.

Just you personally think it is, it's not. Look at the law.

 

Deer do not belong to anyone, nor does any other wildlife. Look it up.

Whether it is right or wrong can be argued. The fact is there is little public land in this country, while there is public land in other countries where you are allowed to hunt is a major difference.

 

Personally if the pheasant was on land I had or permission then it's fair game, like many of the 'wild' shoots or rough shooting. Going over to take pheasant from someones land who has taken the time to rear them, is wrong and poaching not stealing.

 

If the pheasant is on land where you have permission to shoot and you have permission to shoot pheasants on that permission then hello dinner! Happens on my permission and I am very thankful that I have the permission to do so. Wish I could get one of those nice Partridge though! Had a red legged partridge not a "normal" one!

Edited January 24, 2012 by secretagentmole

[hellyer189 93]

at the end of the day we all take risks if you get caught you just hold your hands up and deal with the consequenses. and next time dont get f*****g caught

[poacher3161 1,766]

I have poached pheasants in the past,and call it what you like,but it's theft they don't belong to you.its theft by the definition of the word.deer hares that's poaching and wouldn't class that theft at all. Get caught and go to court,and you will soon find out if it's theft or not.as for saying your not getting into it dances.well it just proves to me you don't know what the f**k your talking about.

 

So if it's not theft,I should go to asda tesco's clear thier shelfs of pheasants,and other wild game and walk out the door with it,and when I'm stopped and the cops are called and I'm charged with theft.i can say noooo it's poaching.

Pheasants come under game once their released into the wild and if your caught takeing them without permision you will be charged under the game act of 1881 of poaching same as you would an hare or a deer.

[secretagentmole 1,701]

But if you have the permission, you have the dinners!

[R. Docks 154]

Whilst I understand that those who make their living rearing and releasing game would consider any poaching as 'theft' in broad terms, technically it is unlikely to be so in law.

 

Game birds that are still in release pens are not considered to be wild, and therefore anyone 'taking' them (the term 'to take' includes killing) would be guilty of theft.

 

Once the birds are released, they become wild animals and therefore the property of whoevers land they are on (or the person holding the sporting rights). Anyone 'taking' them at this stage would be guilty of 'poaching'.

 

What has been reported in the newspaper (personally I never take what is written in the papers as gospel) sounds like wanton killing for the sake of killing.

[scothunter 12,609]

Well how I define theft is of someone has bought and paid for something,then in my eyes it's thiers.morally it never stopped me from doing in,but in my heart if hearts I knew I was thieving. Yes it's poaching as well technically.but I see roe,rabbits hares as true wild game.and therefore fair game just don't get caught lol.

That's how I see it personally anyway.guess the legal legality of it can be argued.

[R. Docks 154]

Well how I define theft is of someone has bought and paid for something,then in my eyes it's thiers.morally it never stopped me from doing in,but in my heart if hearts I knew I was thieving. Yes it's poaching as well technically.but I see roe,rabbits hares as true wild game.and therefore fair game just don't get caught lol.

That's how I see it personally anyway.guess the legal legality of it can be argued.

 

Lots of people see it like that Scot, but in the eyes of the law, all wild animals are the property of the landowner where they happen to be at the time.