martnmagik 68 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 how are you going to train it not to? jumping is as natural to a lurcher as shitting not to my retard it isnt....ive tried to get her to jump for 14 months and she wont have any of it she will try and get through the gaps in gates or just look at me with that "f**k you" look that they give you then take off and find another way round or through the obsticle to get to me on the other side...but ive learnt to work with this dissability lol 2 Quote Link to post
mick.dundee 2 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Mines the same martnmagik. He'll leap into a pick up with the tailgate up no bother. but a fence. f**k off lol. But I've seen dogs from his sires line exactly the same that have to be lifted over a knee high fence. to most dogs its natural and shoud be encouraged, but if its not then its probably safer to put up with it not jumping imo 1 Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 i dont put too much emphasis on jumping, the mutt can jump, but i dont expect him to jump when we're out roaming or i dont make him jump,he finds his own way, having too lift a dog over things when out is madness and a lack of fieldcraft in my experience, if the dog wants it enough he'll find a way , over ,under , through whatever the obstacle , Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I was caught in two minds with the same sort of dilemma, especially with my dog only being 21tts. But one day she just jumped over a turnstyle without me even saying anything and ever since then she's jump fences etc. It's surprising how much spring even a small lurcher has from a standing start! Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I was caught in two minds with the same sort of dilemma, especially with my dog only being 21tts. But one day she just jumped over a turnstyle without me even saying anything and ever since then she's jump fences etc. It's surprising how much spring even a small lurcher has from a standing start! mine can jump over the dog run panels 6ft with just a bounce Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) For me it depends what the dog is to be used for, Ive always taught dogs to jump in the past but they were primarily daytime dogs. They all got wired from time to time but any dog that runs and jumps regularly will get caught sooner or later, making judgements at full tilt inevitable leads to misjudgements. Now I have dogs that are solely for lamping I dont teach them to jump, the ground I work has in the main thick hedges atop Devon banks and so is un jumpable and most rabbits bounce back rather than go through so a dog is better to look to snatch from the hedge bottom rather than try to jump to the other side. As I said all my daytime dogs were pretty well marked up so those trying to do the same thing in just lamp light soon had me decided that they spent to much time laid up, Id rather miss the odd one and go on to run another ten than have them continuously on their beds recovering. Edited January 23, 2012 by sandymere Quote Link to post
redcharge 378 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 A lurcher definately needs to jump for me, just dont start him too soon i'd say no more than 2ft till he's at least 12 months old and his growth plates have closed up Quote Link to post
chartpolski 25,388 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 In the days when lamping was in it's infancy, and daytime working was the norm, a good Lurcher was supposed to do "the four tricks", HJKC. If a dog couldn't jump, it was considered useless. Cheers. Quote Link to post
HALTY LAD 92 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Mine was trained to jump but I must admit he did have a nasty accident, we came to a barbed wire fence which he could have got under but he chose to jump it, his style when jumping fences was to sort of spring off the top of the fence or gate, this particular fencing was very loose and when he went to spring off it he got tangled on the barbed wire. He was left hanging by the shoulder with his back legs barely touching the ground, I tried to free him but his skin was wrapped around it so tight it was impossible, I decided on running to my grandads house to get some cutters and told him to stay, his back legs were trembling through trying to hold himself up. As I climbed a gate I heard a snap, looked around and he had freed himself, the barbed wire had torn through his muscle and he needed quite abit of recovery due to his injuries, still there's nothing more embarrassing than a dog unwilling to jump the smallest of fences, it's a must in my eyes accidents will always happen, Ive had a big old lurcher hanging by a back leg from the top of a deer fence, the skin on his back leg was stripped away. He recovered well enough after some emergency field stitching. He could get over deer fences, but often scramble the top. This time he was unlucky and a hind leg went through between the mesh and the top strand wire. But a non jumping dog would catch very little game for me. Every lurcher Ive owned jumped, mostly self taught or with just a little persuasion. Quote Link to post
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