Rake aboot 4,936 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Personally The quicker you get a vasectomised hob, the more money you save I had one Jill jabbed,, she died,, I never had it done again, got the hobs done and because I keep loads if jills I`ve saved a mint in the long run Quote Link to post
TonyHunterSBT 5 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 glad you asked this mate as ill be doing the same! like your avatar mate, joe mallen!! How much is it costing u if u don't mind me asking pal, they quoted £40 for castration, Yea old joe one the old time game men eh! my grandad was the same with his livestock! Cheers tony My vet said around the 40 mark for 1 Jill!! Joe was a co-founder of the Staffordshire bull terrier, owned the first male champion sbt! He was based in cradley Heath right by me, chain maker by day!! Would have liked to have met him! Gentleman Jim!, he bred some some game tykes, like he said only breed tried blood, I would have liked to have met him too pal! Il let u know what the vet says! Cheers tony Quote Link to post
TonyHunterSBT 5 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Personally The quicker you get a vasectomised hob, the more money you save I had one Jill jabbed,, she died,, I never had it done again, got the hobs done and because I keep loads if jills I`ve saved a mint in the long run I agree, il get a quote for vasectomy, Thanks Pal! Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yep, you might get a discount for 5. Some/ all or none of your jills may need further jill jabs in the same season. Interesting, I know I'm repeating myself but perhaps the vasectomy is the most long standIng solution,,, Cheers tony A hoblet is a solution, but v-hobs also pose a risk to jills. It really depends on what you want long-term and what is in the best interests of your ferrets. Vasectomies are not proven, so best not to use a recently v-hob/hoblet to bring jills out of season, plus best to have the op done afer hob is in season, as the vas deferens is easier to locate, but using hoblets does risk pyometra to the jills/internal injuries and neck wounds etc. Pyometra is pretty nasty. Jill Jabs are painful and can cause localised swelling, and may need repeated during the same breeding season, or may not. What is the long term breeding interests? From all jills, or??? Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yep, you might get a discount for 5. Some/ all or none of your jills may need further jill jabs in the same season. Interesting, I know I'm repeating myself but perhaps the vasectomy is the most long standIng solution,,, Cheers tony A hoblet is a solution, but v-hobs also pose a risk to jills. It really depends on what you want long-term and what is in the best interests of your ferrets. Vasectomies are not proven, so best not to use a recently v-hob/hoblet to bring jills out of season, plus best to have the op done afer hob is in season, as the vas deferens is easier to locate, but using hoblets does risk pyometra to the jills/internal injuries and neck wounds etc. Pyometra is pretty nasty. Jill Jabs are painful and can cause localised swelling, and may need repeated during the same breeding season, or may not. What is the long term breeding interests? From all jills, or??? try not to complicate things eh??? Ferret wikki strikes again Quote Link to post
TonyHunterSBT 5 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I have one Jill I wish to breed with again in future, she's also the mother to the Jill's I have kept back to work and until they're proven I don't want to rush in and get them neutered, but it is a long term solution of I don't wish to breed them but it may take a season or two to get the best from them (this being there first working season) . There's a lot of wats and buts... If I can get hold of a hoblet I would happily borrow one but if not il go with the jabb, then il see how they work next yea and make some decision on neutering, Thanks for the advice lads, more is welcome... Cheers tony Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 the OP wanted to know about jill jabs and I replied, now vasectomised hobs are brought into the topic OK use a vasectomised hob but you'll still have the jills coming back into season 6 weeks on,now myself and plenty of other members on here leave jills in season(and have done for many years)without any losses or ill side effects,just seperate hobs from jills and you wont go far wrong Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
Ferret mad Dave 65 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Personally The quicker you get a vasectomised hob, the more money you save I had one Jill jabbed,, she died,, I never had it done again, got the hobs done and because I keep loads if jills I`ve saved a mint in the long run is this common mate in getting the jab ???? Quote Link to post
TonyHunterSBT 5 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 the OP wanted to know about jill jabs and I replied, now vasectomised hobs are brought into the topic OK use a vasectomised hob but you'll still have the jills coming back into season 6 weeks on,now myself and plenty of other members on here leave jills in season(and have done for many years)without any losses or ill side effects,just seperate hobs from jills and you wont go far wrong Y.I.S Leeview Problem solved! :-) Cheers il let u know how it goes! I was led to believe this would have caused problems even death, but I presume this would be due to infection of the vulva area on the Jill, so I will as usual keep a close eye on the health of the ferrets. I suppose they would survive in the wild if they didn't find a mate! Thanks Tony Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 The main issue is that if they stay in season too long they have a habit of developing Anemia, which can kill them, along with any infection as they stay more prone to it.. Lots of folk let them stay in season,, but most would advise otherwise. 23 yrs keeping them for me,, and I would advise otherwise. Seen them die from anemia, and swore I wouldn`t make the same mistake twice, But that debate will rage,, probably around the end of Feb Quote Link to post
TonyHunterSBT 5 Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Steep learning curb with ferrets, Iv been keepiv ferrets for 5 years started with two castrated hobs, which where great pets and good workers never musky or aggressive, they where rescued by me and had been fed a poor diet by previous owners they both developed insulinomas and thus past away, I then got two more ferrets of a friend one Jill and a hob, the hob is a great looker big fella a proper dark eyed white ( bay chance not breeding) and the Jill is sandy and works like a machine!! I bred her last year when she came into season she had 9 kits. 7 survived, one was born with a heart problem which got worse as he grew bigger ( had him put to sleep) another hob dround, I was left with 4 jill kits and 3 hob kits all grew into healthy young ferrets, I still have all the ferrets which is ok with me but thus the issue with OP, In short the decision is mine and I can only take the advice given and make the best decision fo me, as I have so many ferrets perhaps it may be suitable if I let some go to good homes for instance, it's something I need to think seriously about, U have all been very helpfull and forthcoming with your experience and opinions and I'm gratefull for that, Cheers Tony, Quote Link to post
TonyHunterSBT 5 Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 But that debate will rage,, probably around the end of Feb It's a hot topic! Thanks for the advice! Cheers tony Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 The main issue is that if they stay in season too long they have a habit of developing Anemia, which can kill them, along with any infection as they stay more prone to it.. Lots of folk let them stay in season,, but most would advise otherwise. 23 yrs keeping them for me,, and I would advise otherwise. Seen them die from anemia, and swore I wouldn`t make the same mistake twice, But that debate will rage,, probably around the end of Feb this "habit of developing aneamia" if I recall correctly last year you were the only member that had ever lost a ferret due to leaving a jill in season? and the one you mentioned earlier that died from a jill jab? far more members stated on here that they leave their jills in season with no problems at all If your thinking of the jill jab consider this, it will take her out of season and she'll be back in season after 6weeks so another trip to the vets and 6 weeks later (mid June) guess what she'll be back in season so another trip to the vets because you dont want to leave her in season until late August/September. so your jill has had 3injections in 18-20weeks thats a lot of foreign matter in her system and who knows what harm that will do? Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
SINDASOX 256 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I've been getting my jills jabbed for years and the vet did mention to me before that maybe they will come back in season, but i only get them jabbed once and mine havent come back into season in all the times i've had them done. SINDASOX Quote Link to post
ferret100 47 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Yep, you might get a discount for 5. Some/ all or none of your jills may need further jill jabs in the same season. Interesting, I know I'm repeating myself but perhaps the vasectomy is the most long standIng solution,,, Cheers tony A hoblet is a solution, but v-hobs also pose a risk to jills. It really depends on what you want long-term and what is in the best interests of your ferrets. Vasectomies are not proven, so best not to use a recently v-hob/hoblet to bring jills out of season, plus best to have the op done afer hob is in season, as the vas deferens is easier to locate, but using hoblets does risk pyometra to the jills/internal injuries and neck wounds etc. Pyometra is pretty nasty. Jill Jabs are painful and can cause localised swelling, and may need repeated during the same breeding season, or may not. What is the long term breeding interests? From all jills, or??? try not to complicate things eh??? Ferret wikki strikes again Its not complicated at all. Each method can have its merits. Pointed it out, simple. Quote Link to post
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