Pointers

[Parabuteos lad 878]

im looking at getting a pointer in the very near future. but i was wondering, which would be best (for falconry)? my preferences are the following; gwp, gsp, english.

so, which would be best for me?

how long before i can work her? (will be trained by ian griffiths gundog trainer)

any more information i need?

 

had a brittany and will not waste my time again, so please dont recomend them

[PoshPikey 560]

If you can't train a Brit why do you think you can train a pointer? Genuine question not crabbing.

 

Sounds to me as if buying a ready trained dog might be your best bet - h.p.r.s are very very slow to mature so you might get yourself in the same position again

 

[Mooch. 177]

If you will use the dog solely for falconry then I'm assuming that the ability to retrieve isn't important in which case I'd say English Pointer would be most suitable.

[BellySlater 15]

Best Falconry dog , easy - Hungarian V.

 

But like the other guy says "if you can't train a Brittany................"

[Parabuteos lad 878]

Thanks for the replies. But the answer to the two "if you cant train a britt" i have stated that i wont be training the pointer...

Also dont really fancy a hwv, just fancy one of the above three. In the order of preference it would be, gwp, gsp, english

[Clare 33]

Get in touch with Emma and andrew at Warrenby Gundogs, they train and trail pointers http://www.(!64.56:886/warrenbygundogs

[Swampy 147]

What about Smooth haired Vizsla or even Weimerama...............Ok maybe a bit much the Weim'

But Smooth Haired Vizsla not dissimilar to English pointers and easier to train by all accounts.

Don't get me wrong...

1. I'm biased

2. I really like the look of an English pointer but they are slightly to big for my needs...an house!

 

Why does everyone forget the Vizsla but remembers the HWV?

 

rgds

 

Swampy

 

smooth ning

[FightTheBan 1,147]

I would recommend wirehaired pointer. Have previous experience with all of them and my findings are:-

• English pointers are superb rangy quatering dogs, ideally suited to grouse work.
  
• German pointers are slightly more bidable and easier to get a close pattern out of.
  

It really depends what type of falconry you are doing, if its for grouse English every time.

For everything else I would say German.

 

I would forget vizlas, weinmeranas, spaniels, setters (even though I have 2). Just my personal opinion though.

 

ATB

 

FTB

[PoshPikey 560]

You questions generate more questions rather than answers:

 

All HPR breeds will work with BOPS but each is suited to a varying degree on the game and the terrain. you didn't answer that so hard to tell if you are on grouse moors or trying to kill squirrels with HH.

 

Which would work best for you? Who knows? obviously not a Brit. you don't say why not but my gut feel is that you need to bond with a dog and train it if you can't do that and we don't know your temperament then how can we suggest a breed? If you are a pushover then any german breed might be too stubborn for you. Others might be too sensitive?

 

 

How long before you can work her? how long is a piece of string? how old is it - you buying in a pup or a sapling? I would have thought that the trainer might have a better idea on this. how long you sending it off for training for?

 

See what i mean - there is a lot to be taken into account! Just fancying a breed seems a bit loose for me.

Edited January 24, 2012 by PoshPikey

[Parabuteos lad 878]

i have found a litter of gsp's. the dog will be worked with my gos, a friends gyrxsaker and anothers redtail. i will not be sending it to training, i will be attending with it and learning myself so that i am capable of training future dogs...

[waidmann 105]

i have found the slovakian pointers to be very bidable and close working, just to throw that in.

 

good luck finding the right dog.

 

waidmannsheil!!

[Swampy 147]

I would recommend wirehaired pointer. Have previous experience with all of them and my findings are:-

• English pointers are superb rangy quatering dogs, ideally suited to grouse work.
  
• German pointers are slightly more bidable and easier to get a close pattern out of.
  

It really depends what type of falconry you are doing, if its for grouse English every time.

For everything else I would say German.

 

I would forget vizlas, weinmeranas, spaniels, setters (even though I have 2). Just my personal opinion though.

 

ATB

 

FTB

 

NEVER forget a vizsla FTB!

PP probably got it right. There are so many variables. Soley for falconry?

I can't personally comment as I've never worked mine with birds although I have heard they're very good.

Good luck with your search.

Out of curiosity what do your mates work with?

 

 

rgds

 

Swampy

6 nings left if I'm lucky

[Parabuteos lad 878]

Dogs? they dont. they shared a pointer, but it died of old age...

[Swampy 147]

If you stil cant decide. My Dad always said "stick with what you know"

 

good luck

 

Swampy

 

not enough nings left

[remi700 99]

English pointer or English setter. I've owned a few of each of these breeds and always go back to the English pointer. Do allot of grouse work myself and couldn't find a German short haired with enough drive. One minute there quarterin fine the next minute there 6 foot behind you! Cant speak for a visla because I've never worked 1 but I certainly wouldn't have another weimerama.