For the irish lad's! Rabbits and Badger's, historical content!!!

[Foxgun Tom 75]

foxgun tom, why would you post links like that on an open forum, its bad enought guys against us posting clips, without you joining them.

 

to suggest I'm joining anyone against us is feckin' laughable I've been supportive and promoted the use of the working terrier/lurcher and their owners all my life!! and I'm a member of a working dog association!!

 

This post was about the terriers not the practice's demonstrated in the clip, I have my own views on that!! The clip is readily available to all on a respected site. The clip is also without doubt a historical record of day's gone by!!

 

Its not that long ago since similar events were used as tourist attractions eg: Bullfighting!

 

Tom

Edited January 21, 2012 by Foxgun Tom

[Tayto 52]

foxgun tom, why would you post links like that on an open forum, its bad enought guys against us posting clips, without you joining them.

 

to suggest I'm joining anyone against us is feckin' laughable I've been supportive and promoted the of the working terrier/lurcher and their owners all my life!! and I'm a member of a working dog association!!

 

This post was about the terriers not the practice's demonstrated in the clip, I have my own views on that!! The clip is readily available to all on a respected site. The clip is also without doubt a historical record of day's gone by!!

 

Its not that long ago since similar events were used as tourist attractions eg: Bullfighting!

 

Tom

I wouldnt get worked up,nobody gave a fook about his comment.Historical event!

[chartpolski 23,238]

If people are going to get upset at this clip, how long will it be before they are also getting upset at coursing clips ?

 

Cheers.

[dublin dezzy 1,023]

Nothing to do with ammo for antis-baiting is not hunting-now or 100 yrs ago. Anyone that does/did it has no respect for the quarry,whatever it is,and do not represent hunting to any one with morals,be they anti or hunter.

can you tell me where i have said what happened in the clip was hunting?

you say anyone who has trialed a dog has no respect for there quarry,a lot of the older generation of terrierman in Ireland have done these trials and to say they dont respect there quarry is just ignorance/utter shite,just because you do pest control for a living certainly does not make you an expert on something you clearly no nothing about.

[danny300 2,240]

If people are going to get upset at this clip, how long will it be before they are also getting upset at coursing clips ?

 

Cheers.

well said chart i have work wheatens in the past and any old terrier man that i know who trialed there dogs had the utmost respect for there quarry

[lurcher330 2,297]

They where trials ,the old version of today's lurcher and terrier show,where,terrier's showed their worth to get cert's,each dog was on a single badger ,a different badger for each trial,and more than likely the best dogs from the trials where bred with the best bitch's,the dogs also showed there worth in the field on private digs,they also trialed sounder's which where favoured over hard mute terrier's since they had no locater's,and at the end of the day each badger was returned to the area it was from,with most likely nothing more than a bit of a sore head,so i would not class that as baiting,all the dogs had to do was make a single grip and draw it out a 40 foot shoot with in 6 mins

[Foxgun Tom 75]

They where trials ,the old version of today's lurcher and terrier show,where,terrier's showed their worth to get cert's,each dog was on a single badger ,a different badger for each trial,and more than likely the best dogs from the trials where bred with the best bitch's,the dogs also showed there worth in the field on private digs,they also trialed sounder's which where favoured over hard mute terrier's since they had no locater's,and at the end of the day each badger was returned to the area it was from,with most likely nothing more than a bit of a sore head,so i would not class that as baiting,all the dogs had to do was make a single grip and draw it out a 40 foot shoot with in 6 mins

 

Thank's!! for the insight and information

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

http://backup.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=10231

[danny300 2,240]

They where trials ,the old version of today's lurcher and terrier show,where,terrier's showed their worth to get cert's,each dog was on a single badger ,a different badger for each trial,and more than likely the best dogs from the trials where bred with the best bitch's,the dogs also showed there worth in the field on private digs,they also trialed sounder's which where favoured over hard mute terrier's since they had no locater's,and at the end of the day each badger was returned to the area it was from,with most likely nothing more than a bit of a sore head,so i would not class that as baiting,all the dogs had to do was make a single grip and draw it out a 40 foot shoot with in 6 mins

and had to be quiet or they were lifted

[liamdelaney 2,586]

This place is getting scarey,with do gooders,judging those that went before them on something they know nothing about.

[huntsbyhimself 82]

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[danny300 2,240]

Does anyone know were there ever terirer trials or stong dogs worked in England Wales or Scotland in the same tradition as in Ireland. If you go on you tube you can find videos of terrier trials all over europe Jagd terriers mostly i think they cant register to breed from dogs that have not qualified and its part of the shows nothing is killed either. I dont think the trials in the 1920s were the same as baiting.

well said there and most of the working wheatens that went across the pond came from IRELAND

[kegs 40]

i think this topic sort of proves in around about way why hunting is finished in the way it was,this was a hunting site when i joined,when the antis see a clip like that they get together work out a plan and shout about it,,,when its put on a hunting site what happens,,within three pages half of you are arguing and the other half are shittin yourselves shounting the antis are coming,how many of you that just critisized tom actually do anything to promote your chosen passtime to the public,how many went to the marches run an event or help at anything.this is the basic reason the anti win because we cant stick together,rant over mybe ive lost it but thats my opinion,on the clip the older ways were vastly different than ours due mostly to the fact hunting was wholey acceptable to everyone,the trails will never be back here but they are a piece of our history

[tillearthdouspart 100]

I do perfer the digging game but if these things still happened today and in the manner seen on the clip I sure would attend. What a great day out I dont see anything to harmfull to the badger in this clip. And im sure the banter would be great.

[liamdelaney 2,586]

i think this topic sort of proves in around about way why hunting is finished in the way it was,this was a hunting site when i joined,when the antis see a clip like that they get together work out a plan and shout about it,,,when its put on a hunting site what happens,,within three pages half of you are arguing and the other half are shittin yourselves shounting the antis are coming,how many of you that just critisized tom actually do anything to promote your chosen passtime to the public,how many went to the marches run an event or help at anything.this is the basic reason the anti win because we cant stick together,rant over mybe ive lost it but thats my opinion,on the clip the older ways were vastly different than ours due mostly to the fact hunting was wholey acceptable to everyone,the trails will never be back here but they are a piece of our history

That about sums it up my friend,hunting, site my arse a shower of politically correct hunters(NOT ALL)OH my god i dont like that that must be terribly cruel how could people do such things,lets judge those horrible old people for doing such horrible things.Hunting is f****d when you see the wankers that are coming in this generation.And DEALER you should know better.