scotty3968 0 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 HI IVE BEEN DOING SOME RETREVIAL TRAINING WITH THE PUP AND HIS ABILITY TO RETAIN ANY INFO IS TERRIBLE,I STARTED IN THE GARDEN WITH A TOY WHICH HE LIKED AND STOOD IN FRONT OF HIS KENNEL TO CUT HIM OF AND GAVE HIM A TREAT EVERYTIME HE RELUCTANTLY GAVE ME IT BACK.I ONLY DONE THIS A FEW TIMES A WEEK NOT TO SICKEN HIM AND HE STARTED TO COME ON QUITE WELL..NOW HE WONT COME ANYWHERE NEAR ME WITH IT AND IVE GOT TO GO AND SEEK HIM,HE DOSANT RUN AWAY JUST LIES DOWN AND CHEWS WHATEVER I HAVE THROWN FOR HIM ,IM THINKING ABOUT USING THE STRING ATTACHED TO IT,,ANYONE ANY BETTER IDEAS, OR COULD IT BE HE JUST DOSANT WANT TO RETRIEVE FULL STOP? CHEERS SCOTTY Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 How old is he? I start my lurchers off in the house, some room where he cant run away and hide. I use an old rag with a few knots in it, sit down and make out is yours, get him worked up before you throw it.as you say dont over do it with the little fella. Quote Link to post
scotty3968 0 Posted April 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 hi bbb he`s 6 month now.i think i might be on a loser..im still going to stick at it,its a mare when a dog dosant retrieve!like you say its hard not to sicken him by doing to much i might lay off for a weekor two then start again...plenty of time before next season scotty Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Its harder if they have started using there nose and finding stuff.that why i start them indoors ( also you dont look a twat shouting and balling)..if it all goes wrong Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 i wouldnt involve any food with retreiving matey.... Quote Link to post
tote 854 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Scotty keep your chin up mate and get rid of those negative thoughts In both your posts you've made negative comments-"COULD IT BE HE JUST DOESN'T WANT TO RETRIEVE" and "I THINK I MIGHT BE ON A LOSER" The easy option is to give up Stick at it mate you'll get there in the end,I start all my lurcher pups retrieving training at an early age,from 8 weeks on. Try doing the retrieve training in an enclosed area like a hallway,or if the pup is bigger an alleyway,block off one end,that's the end you stand at this stops the pup from running behind you. It's not unusual to hit problems when retrieving training,but that doesn't mean we have to give in we just work through the sticky times I would give the pup a retrieving session every day,but keep it short and make it enjoyable for it. Good luck mate. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Scotty.... dont even think about retrieiving matey..... just let the dog carry something he likes on the lead for short bursts..... is there anything he likes??? toy?? balls?? rabbit skin dummy...... and DONT throw anything for him for the time being...,... Quote Link to post
Guest WILF Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) Edited April 17, 2007 by WILF Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 (edited) DON'T give up Scotty: just leave it for a bit. I'm just getting through to a little monster I bred: she is now nearly 10 months old and she was similar to yours by the sounds of things. Less is sometimes more in these cases. Concentrate on getting a really good bond with your pup. Some pups just aren't ready for retrieve training until much later than others. If your pup doesn't want to come near you then just focus on recall, sit, loads of praise: and make sure you practice all of that everywhere: not just in your back yard/garden. Don't take it all too seriously either: pups just want (and need) to have fun! The fun bit is really important: if you can get a fun/play thing going between you then your'e half way there. Try getting a favourite toy/dummy/bit of rag on the end of a string about 10 feet long, and drag the thing around for your pup to chase: when he grabs it reel him in GENTLY and have a silly game with it: MAKE SURE you win the game and keep the toy/dummy or whatever. Only do it once, or twice at the most, then put it away (don't let him play with it between times). Hopefully he'll get a bit obsessed with the thing. What your'e trying to do is make sure you have fun, but he must understand that your'e calling the shots and that he never gets to keep the item. Just read your post again: make sure it doesn't turn into a battle of wills, and definitely don't use something he usually plays with on his own: it MUST be a special thing that he can't play with at any other time or else he thinks he has the right ot do what he wants with it as it's his own possession. Best of luck: let us know how you get on. Concentrate on general obedience: NO jumping up at you or anyone else, sit before being fed, and WAIT until you say he can eat (just a second's wait to begin with. Hold him back and then say OK and release him.) Edited April 18, 2007 by skycat Quote Link to post
scotty3968 0 Posted April 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 cheers skycat,tote and darcy,,,,just got a bit miffed because he was doing so well,iv layed of for a week and im going to start again tomorrow with a couple of new ideas,,will let you all know how i get on cheers again scotty Quote Link to post
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