peeky boo 8 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 a mean man with his head henry they call him the wood pecker in the book say he fast with his head Hes known as either the heat of the dynamite kid........ he dont live to far from me I wudnt say hes a massive bloke but heard alot about him but you never hear his name mentioned on these documentry of travelers fighting knuckle ect 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trev Smilerface 38 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Strength and honour, Had it but aint got it anymore......Was on the set of the film keeping the travellers away from Vinnie Jones and Richard Chamberlain. Saw the scene in the warehouse where Vinnie was on the back of the truck. That was filmed in the marina here in the city. Loads of peole i know over here were used as extras for the film. But when i actually saw the film i though it was a let down. There used to be a fella up Norfolk way called Ely Frankham was a fair handy fella and a traveller. Certainly not a fella to mess with by all accounts. Theres been some good bare knuckle fights and ive seen some lousy ones that aint worth watching. Wouldnt do it myself, but ive been asked if i ever fancied having a go. A fight would be sorted for me to do it. Think i'll stay away from it, my days of getting in the ring are gone, never mind no ring and no gloves for a couple of hundred quid.. 41yrs old and aint having some whipper snapper running rings around me after my 40 a day smoking habit :laugh: Edited January 18, 2012 by Trev Smilerface Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 There used to be a fella up Norfolk way called Ely Frankham was a fair handy fella and a traveller. Certainly not a fella to mess with by all accounts. Theres been some good bare knuckle fights and ive seen some lousy ones that aint worth watching. Dont know if you mean the father or son but they,re both passed on......i forget the relationship now but i knew Bobby Frankham back in the ,s he was a decent pro and a nice fella.....again i cant remember the relationship but Johnny Frankham was an absolute scumbag....but again,was a decent boxer. Bobby was banned from the pro game for smacking a referee after stopping him early. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 [i think bare knuckle fighting and travellers have been linked for many a year but it was Guy Ritchie and the film Snatch that made it "cool".......Read Bartley Gormans book a good few years ago, very interesting People have been having straighteners for years......i think the Snatch film coupled with these boys filming their punch ups have led to a lot of impressionable young lads thinking its " cool " as you say.....A bit like when Tyson came on the seen and the younguns started calling their dogs " Tyson ".........usually lads who would never dream of having a fight but like to watch others....funny enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 1 strength and honor is a load of shite vinny plays a shite gypo and the fight scenes are pathetic!! 2 bartley was a good man and fighter but in the real world how long would he last against Lewis never mind Ali lol 3 so glad there's no gypsys in Sweden so all the scrap is safe for me to get Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marvin 193 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 1 strength and honor is a load of shite vinny plays a shite gypo and the fight scenes are pathetic!! 2 bartley was a good man and fighter but in the real world how long would he last against Lewis never mind Ali lol 3 so glad there's no gypsys in Sweden so all the scrap is safe for me to get so who points the ridges or tarmacs the drives for you lot then lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldfinch2007 2,332 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 1 strength and honor is a load of shite vinny plays a shite gypo and the fight scenes are pathetic!! 2 bartley was a good man and fighter but in the real world how long would he last against Lewis never mind Ali lol 3 so glad there's no gypsys in Sweden so all the scrap is safe for me to get i know travellers in sweden now feller.block paving drives Quote Link to post Share on other sites
just jack 998 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 1 strength and honor is a load of shite vinny plays a shite gypo and the fight scenes are pathetic!! 2 bartley was a good man and fighter but in the real world how long would he last against Lewis never mind Ali lol 3 so glad there's no gypsys in Sweden so all the scrap is safe for me to get so who points the ridges or tarmacs the drives for you lot then lol tradesmen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trev Smilerface 38 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 There used to be a fella up Norfolk way called Ely Frankham was a fair handy fella and a traveller. Certainly not a fella to mess with by all accounts. Theres been some good bare knuckle fights and ive seen some lousy ones that aint worth watching. Dont know if you mean the father or son but they,re both passed on......i forget the relationship now but i knew Bobby Frankham back in the ,s he was a decent pro and a nice fella.....again i cant remember the relationship but Johnny Frankham was an absolute scumbag....but again,was a decent boxer. Bobby was banned from the pro game for smacking a referee after stopping him early. Yeah Johnny frankham was a good boxer in his time but like so many he turned to the drink. He was from round the Reading way and heard his name many times when i was living in Bracknell. And totally agree he was a scumbag. But not far from Reading near Crowthorne theres a travellers place just off the nine mile ride and some of the frankhams are there and i used to box in the boxing club across the road. Now there was a fella there called Michael Smith, a traveller he was the european boxing champion and had awsome hand speed on him. Never did find out if he went further. Theres a few of the travellers that if they stuck with the game they could be damn fine boxers, but they all seem to turn to thedrink or go down the bare knuckle road. Im waiting to see what Big Bang Willy Casey is going to do after losing his title fight......not sure if he'll carry on or not. Good friends with members of his family, but again not a family to mess with ......and even by travellers standards these are classed as "heads".. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Not sure who Michael Smith is/was but certainly not a European champion in the pros......thing is it takes a lot more than big balls to go anywhere in the sport plenty of these travelling lads will have a tear up fair do,s.....but that will only take you so far.....skill,talent and a big chunk of dedication come into play as soon as you leave the caravan park ......the kid Billy Joe Saunders has the right idea he got away from all that bullshit and got himself into a good little club as a youngster and did things the right way.......he,s a pleasant kid with manners and a great temperament for the game.....a credit to his family and i hope he continues to improve. Edited January 18, 2012 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trev Smilerface 38 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Not sure who Michael Smith is/was but certainly not a European champion in the pros......thing is it takes a lot more than big balls to go anywhere in the sport plenty of these travelling lads will have a tear up fair do,s.....but that will only take you so far.....skill,talent and a big chunk of dedication come into play as soon as you leave the caravan park ......the kid Billy Joe Saunders has the right idea he got away from all that bullshit and got himself into a good little club as a youngster and did things the right way.......he,s a pleasant kid with manners and a great temperament for the game.....a credit to his family and i hope he continues to improve. Michael Smith was european schoolboys champion. I was in the same school as him in crowthorne. So its going back about 25yrs ago, but certainly had talent at that age, but never heard about him since so i take it he fell to the wayside like many of them. Willy Casey has the talent if he can keep going, he was totally outclassed in his last fight with Guillermo Rigondaux for the WBA title. I really hope he goes on with it, his fmily do too. He's not, as far as i know mixed up in some of the stuff his relatives are into. Like you say to make it anywhere in boxing you have to have the dedication and commitment to get anywhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Wonder if it shows the parents stood at ring side screaming at their own kids how much of a disgrace they are, how they have humiliated the whole family name and if they don't win they are in for a kicking when they get home .............. yes it does happen, not by all travellers but a fair few. same with a lot of parents i`ve seen some shocking behaviour at the side of football pitchs and boxing rings -- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 There used to be a fella up Norfolk way called Ely Frankham was a fair handy fella and a traveller. Certainly not a fella to mess with by all accounts. Theres been some good bare knuckle fights and ive seen some lousy ones that aint worth watching. Dont know if you mean the father or son but they,re both passed on......i forget the relationship now but i knew Bobby Frankham back in the ,s he was a decent pro and a nice fella.....again i cant remember the relationship but Johnny Frankham was an absolute scumbag....but again,was a decent boxer. Bobby was banned from the pro game for smacking a referee after stopping him early. gnash was thr 2 john frankhams that boxed .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Right ok i didnt think id heard of him........i think that was only an interim title that Casey fella fought for but still a top fighter nonetheless didnt he win a European title im sure i remember him winning one of the prizefighter tournaments though i might be getting him mixed up with someone else.......featherweight or bantamweight or something....i dont really like them prizefighter tournaments i just cant resist that York Hall atmosphere though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) gnash was thr 2 john frankhams that boxed .. Dont think so mate.....the one we,re on about here fought at light heavy .....he had a couple of good fights with Chris Finnegan might of even won a British title in one of them im not too sure..... Edited January 18, 2012 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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