Stabs 3 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I never tried to alter or change the bread kc say the staff should be no higher than 12 to 13 inches in hight if go back in to the old books the safe should be 14 to 15 inches in hight to be carrying 22pound in weight I reckon you might be a bit out with those figures mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,058 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Ye I no I do under stand what u guys are saying but the bad breaders in my profession do nothing to stop them falling in to the wrong hands and maken us all look bad as u say and I come from a family off breeders mostly off what u lot have from lurcher jacks and I've kept the same vale use of what u lot have I never tried to alter or change the bread kc say the staff should be no higher than 12 to 13 inches in hight if go back in to the old books the safe should be 14 to 15 inches in hight to be carrying 22pound in weight the dog should be able to hold it's own or all these what are happening with my bread I'll leave it there cos I could go on for ever about dog breading and owners hope this has been a good talk as it has been for hope what I've said has not amended any one but there are my points off view I have really enjoyed this talk Surely if breeding dogs is your " profession " you really should know your breeds standard ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
asanley 1,009 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Ye I no I do under stand what u guys are saying but the bad breaders in my profession do nothing to stop them falling in to the wrong hands and maken us all look bad as u say and I come from a family off breeders mostly off what u lot have from lurcher jacks and I've kept the same vale use of what u lot have I never tried to alter or change the bread kc say the staff should be no higher than 12 to 13 inches in hight if go back in to the old books the safe should be 14 to 15 inches in hight to be carrying 22pound in weight the dog should be able to hold it's own or all these what are happening with my bread I'll leave it there cos I could go on for ever about dog breading and owners hope this has been a good talk as it has been for hope what I've said has not amended any one but there are my points off view I have really enjoyed this talk There is something definatley wrong about you . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6pack 60 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 The KC have a lot to answer for, encouraging breeding grotesques. The standards particularly calling for a dog to have 2 full testicles, like it makes a difference in the show ring. But then the ring is geared as a giant sex sale anyway, to see the best of the best for breeding stock. But they aren't soley responsible. You could walk round my estate and buy several staffies. Every man and his dog is breeding them, and they are cheap to buy. Churned out like butter from a dairy. Cheaper to buy a new one than to bail the old one from the pound. Kids soon forget the old dog with another cute puppy. A local rescue offered free neutering, we knocked on doors, told people the figures for the amount of staffy types being destroyed every day, but they wanted their bitch to have a litter. 'She's a nice dog and a couple of mates have said they want one' Neighbours got a good dog and it's good for them to have a litter...' I think it would take much more than a year to clear up current problems with numbers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ye I no I do under stand what u guys are saying but the bad breaders in my profession do nothing to stop them falling in to the wrong hands and maken us all look bad as u say and I come from a family off breeders mostly off what u lot have from lurcher jacks and I've kept the same vale use of what u lot have I never tried to alter or change the bread kc say the staff should be no higher than 12 to 13 inches in hight if go back in to the old books the safe should be 14 to 15 inches in hight to be carrying 22pound in weight the dog should be able to hold it's own or all these what are happening with my bread I'll leave it there cos I could go on for ever about dog breading and owners hope this has been a good talk as it has been for hope what I've said has not amended any one but there are my points off view I have really enjoyed this talk Some pictures would be lovely..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ye I no I do under stand what u guys are saying but the bad breaders in my profession do nothing to stop them falling in to the wrong hands and maken us all look bad as u say and I come from a family off breeders mostly off what u lot have from lurcher jacks and I've kept the same vale use of what u lot have I never tried to alter or change the bread kc say the staff should be no higher than 12 to 13 inches in hight if go back in to the old books the safe should be 14 to 15 inches in hight to be carrying 22pound in weight the dog should be able to hold it's own or all these what are happening with my bread I'll leave it there cos I could go on for ever about dog breading and owners hope this has been a good talk as it has been for hope what I've said has not amended any one but there are my points off view I have really enjoyed this talk Surely if breeding dogs is your " profession " you really should know your breeds standard ! I struggled to read all that. Has he read the kc standards. I doubt it. rgds Swampy ninging well for a tuesday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gameover 1 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Ye I no I do under stand what u guys are saying but the bad breaders in my profession do nothing to stop them falling in to the wrong hands and maken us all look bad as u say and I come from a family off breeders mostly off what u lot have from lurcher jacks and I've kept the same vale use of what u lot have I never tried to alter or change the bread kc say the staff should be no higher than 12 to 13 inches in hight if go back in to the old books the safe should be 14 to 15 inches in hight to be carrying 22pound in weight the dog should be able to hold it's own or all these what are happening with my bread I'll leave it there cos I could go on for ever about dog breading and owners hope this has been a good talk as it has been for hope what I've said has not amended any one but there are my points off view I have really enjoyed this talk by the sound of it, its people like you f@cking the breed up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 f**k it,if people want to breed the arse out of their sick dogs let them. the educated and fairly intelligent people about will either know or soon learn not to go near the messed up show breeds and more so the irresponsible breeders and the problem can sort itself out. anything else (registries,licenses etc) is all about money and control,i guarantee it won't help the problems at hand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Show Labradors are so bad when the wife said she wanted a Labrador I flipped (having nearly been blinded by an abused dog when I was 5). The show ones are now thin, runty, pencil faced neurotic breakdowns on 4 paws. A Labrador is a big dog, muscular, square headed not something that looks like it was grafted off a collie, has paws like shovels and a kind benevolent attitude, apart from wanting all the sofa! I insisted we look for a gun dog and found a breeder selling what he called old fashioned Labradors, ie ones that were not bred to meet the modern breed standard, although they were still KC Registered, That is how we wound up with our 50kg of pure muscle wonder donkey that is currently sleeping upside down on the sofa! The vet says he is the biggest Labrador he has ever seen, that really he could do with losing a couple of kilos, not because he is fat but just to lessen health problems later in life and that he is a superb Labrador. His father was bigger I swear! Edited February 22, 2012 by secretagentmole 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Show Labradors are so bad when the wife said she wanted a Labrador I flipped (having nearly been blinded by an abused dog when I was 5). The show ones are now thin, runty, pencil faced neurotic breakdowns on 4 paws. A Labrador is a big dog, muscular, square headed not something that looks like it was grafted off a collie, has paws like shovels and a kind benevolent attitude, apart from wanting all the sofa! I insisted we look for a gun dog and found a breeder selling what he called old fashioned Labradors, ie ones that were not bred to meet the modern breed standard, although they were still KC Registered, That is how we wound up with our 50kg of pure muscle wonder donkey that is currently sleeping upside down on the sofa! The vet says he is the biggest Labrador he has ever seen, that really he could do with losing a couple of kilos, not because he is fat but just to lessen health problems later in life and that he is a superb Labrador. His father was bigger I swear! Put a picture up off him please............... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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