whin 463 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 how is your saluki lurcher bred Quote Link to post
Saluqihounds 150 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 I had a pure Saluki that sometimes went into the "stay three feet away" mode, and it's the most frustrating, infuriating thing ! The only way I could get him back when he was like this, was to get in the motor and drive a few feet away, stop and open a door; he would fly into the motor, every single time !! LOL !! One thing for certain though; I'd never take him or any dog like him, ferreting !! They are just not meant for it ! Cheers. I dare say he would have done just fine at ferreting given the opportunity to learn the in's and out's of it. Just has he learned to get in the motor or be left. As for whether Salukis are they are meant for ferreting, well I guess that is a matter of opinion, I've kept a few different crosses before the saluki's and alongside the Salukis, I've Salukis, a bedlington, bedlingtonX and a beardieX at present and it's the salukis that are my choice to take ferreting with me and they aren't lacking in ability, quite the opposite Saluki's I reckon they would hold their own against any lurcher at taken rabbits in amongst the old dykes, hedge bottoms, woods etc where I work them. Perhaps if I was ferreting nice open sets in grass park a wee whippet type would snap up the odd rabbit that would out strip the saluki's over a short burst, but 90% of ferreted rabbits are taken not yards from the hole the rabbit exited. 1 Quote Link to post
Saluqihounds 150 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Fellas the description of the day was a generalisation of what the dog done not wether it was supposed to be over the warren or was being called just for a stroke. These incidents happened when nothing much was going on. However a young dog may well need to be called into heel because it is sticking it's head into a hole that could produce a bolt or because it's upsetting the nets. And I it could well be called in for a stroke and a bit of fuss because it has done something worthy of praise thus reinforcing the positive behaviour. I love fukcing smart arses. The only positive reinforcement a saluki is really looking for out ferreting or hunting in any format is to catch its quarry as efficiently as possible thats what he lives for, he know's fine well when he's doing it right because (and this is going to be hard for some folk on here to take) he will learn more about hunting himself when given his head than you or I will ever know. Thats not to say that he is not more than happy to work with us with a common goal but he sure as hell ain't doing it just to put a smile on our faces. Once this pup has seen some hard work she'll happily walk steadily to heal not because she has been made to but more because she knows to. Regarding the getting a pat, that wouldn't concern me in the least, I had a lab many years ago now, he loved his food would eat as much as you could put his way at home etc. but out on a shoot you could not even of forced him to eat a bacon roll. Out in the field they aren't looking for cuddles. 2 Quote Link to post
Guest born to run1083 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 They will only repay owners on their own weird wavelength! Aye by robbing your fatty food , that's one way they do it lol Quote Link to post
brookie 1,193 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Fellas the description of the day was a generalisation of what the dog done not wether it was supposed to be over the warren or was being called just for a stroke. These incidents happened when nothing much was going on. However a young dog may well need to be called into heel because it is sticking it's head into a hole that could produce a bolt or because it's upsetting the nets. And I it could well be called in for a stroke and a bit of fuss because it has done something worthy of praise thus reinforcing the positive behaviour. I love fukcing smart arses. id have thought it would have been tied up .or on a lead why would you want to be calling a young dog and making a noise over the holes when the ferret is in .after all its only a yougster and its keeness and prey drive will compel it to look around when it hears the sound of battle below ..some times theres some right bollox posted on here .if you was that experienced a ferreter mate you wouldnt be having young dogs loose running from hole to hole and then trying to call them away and making a noise when the pug was in . Edited January 16, 2012 by brookie Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 ye brookie liike all the ahhs and awws with the saluk type dogs i keep, even coochie coo works at time s lol i rarely talk to my dogs i only have to kneel and the saluki cross is up at me asking whats on ,the bond was made as a pup and still is daily,som epups are sooky others like big rex well i feed him he kills catches he gives me abit respect cause i chastise him and thtas about it unless he comes back from along run heel settle down for 5 mins then heel get a clap and on to next chase Quote Link to post
Blue one 89 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) ferreting saluki's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOckqFmnt8g Edited January 16, 2012 by Blue one Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 there were no need to kneck that rabb it was munched lol Quote Link to post
miles 227 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) A good friend of mine had a heavily saturated Saluki blooded bitch and it done the "out of reach" trick with us one night lol...to be fair she had been doing her trade on the Fens and the lad just wanted to give her a couple of spins one night a couple of days in advance of her next foray down South..we gave her a run and 2 hours later we were still trying to coax her back after she missed..she just remained that three or four feet away from arms length all the time...talk about frustrating!! The bitch was sold for £5k as she was top drawer on the big land but up here she wasn't worth a fiver lol...and this wasn't the only time she done it..it was just the only time i was present thank f**k!! All crosses can have a stubborn streak and whether the Saluki is any more prone than any other i wouldn't really know? ATB Andy. They certainly can be "high maintainence" that's for sure But any dog some people have, no matter what "flavour" would be Edited January 16, 2012 by miles 2 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,038 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 i dont think you can beat a good bit of collie blood in a ferreting dog socks,,,, as much as i like the saluki blood,, theres not much to equal a good dose of collie/herding type , in a feereting dog. of course your example is just 1 dog,,, my old bitch Visa would acompany me from around 6 months old ferreting,, she was beautifull around a warren,, calm laid back ,, never fecked with nets,,sit when told,, cought bolters.........................however, she didnt have that long concentration span ,, of hovering over the warren following the action below.. 1 Quote Link to post
Saluqihounds 150 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 there were no need to kneck that rabb it was munched lol Munched my arse Whin. Should of gone to specsavers. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,038 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 ferreting saluki's wernt you merri hunter?? yoused to like your posts mainly lamping if a remember... enjoyed your little film there...........but not enough to show them realy working a warren,, it just shoed them catching bolters wich they did a treat,, Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 A bloke I once knew had a decent ferreting F1 Saluki but it was the same as Tomo's, in that it's attension span wasn't that long and would either wander or whine if waiting for too long. She'd be right back if needed but he would be constantly checking for her if the ferrets were down a while. That said, she would mark, respectful of both nets and ferrets, was lightning quicki on bolters and had a wonderful 'tip toe' around holes. The bloke that owned her put a lot of time in and it paid off but I wouldn't go looking for a dog of this type if I was an out and out ferreter. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,038 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 took the 6mth sal lurcher out today with the bairns ferrit in pocket six nets ,no running just ongoing socialising learning the trade . AND HELL BE OUT TOMOZ ASWELL .ATB BUNNYS. best way to do it bunnys whin i know you take your dogs with the ferrets,,, but havent they got collie in the blood , as well as saluki ?? Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Fellas the description of the day was a generalisation of what the dog done not wether it was supposed to be over the warren or was being called just for a stroke. These incidents happened when nothing much was going on. However a young dog may well need to be called into heel because it is sticking it's head into a hole that could produce a bolt or because it's upsetting the nets. And I it could well be called in for a stroke and a bit of fuss because it has done something worthy of praise thus reinforcing the positive behaviour. I love fukcing smart arses. id have thought it would have been tied up .or on a lead why would you want to be calling a young dog and making a noise over the holes when the ferret is in .after all its only a yougster and its keeness and prey drive will compel it to look around when it hears the sound of battle below ..some times theres some right bollox posted on here .if you was that experienced a ferreter mate you wouldnt be having young dogs loose running from hole to hole and then trying to call them away and making a noise when the pug was in . Brooke what the feck is a 10 month old dog going to learn tied up on a warren and where did I say the pup was running from hole to hole making a nuisance of itself ? Don't go presuming you know what was going on on the day. What was happening was that after a bolt and the rabbit was caught instead of the youngster coming back onto the warren she would go into some sort of trance and just stand 10 foot away and no amount of coaxing or calling what get her back to her owner. Then 2 minuets later the same would happen and she would come straight back in after being called. As for ferreting if you ever want to bring your superior self and your saluki crosses down my way please come and teach me and my collie cross cur a lesson or two or not LOL Quote Link to post
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