socks 32,253 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Had a couple of lads from Wales up today for a days ferreting and one of the guys had a lovely 10 month old bitch pup with him that was predominantly saluki blood. Now this youngster was a lovely looking animal and when it was on the game it was fairly steady respected the nets and was mindfull of the ferrets and was nice and sharp with a very good strike. BUT throuought the day the dog would stand and just look at the fella when he called it into heel as if he was speaking Japanese. The young bitch would also stay just out of reach of its master when he went to give it a friendly stroke and then the next second second would be nuzzling for attention. Now I do know that salukis have a special way about them and can be very aloof at times but I was stood back looking at this really nice looking bitch and knew that the way she was behaving I would soon lose patience in her as a ferreting dog. I honestly believe in horses for courses and I am convinced that this youngster will make a good catch dog when she matures I really can't see the saluki saturated dog ever having the patience or acumen to make a top grade ferreting dog. Quote Link to post
PoshPikey 560 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 They will only repay owners on their own weird wavelength! 2 Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,156 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 A good friend of mine had a heavily saturated Saluki blooded bitch and it done the "out of reach" trick with us one night lol...to be fair she had been doing her trade on the Fens and the lad just wanted to give her a couple of spins one night a couple of days in advance of her next foray down South..we gave her a run and 2 hours later we were still trying to coax her back after she missed..she just remained that three or four feet away from arms length all the time...talk about frustrating!! The bitch was sold for £5k as she was top drawer on the big land but up here she wasn't worth a fiver lol...and this wasn't the only time she done it..it was just the only time i was present thank f**k!! All crosses can have a stubborn streak and whether the Saluki is any more prone than any other i wouldn't really know? ATB Andy. Quote Link to post
Saluqihounds 150 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 They'll do better at ferreting than a purpose bred ferreting dog would do at coursing. Just curious as to the need for the dog to be at heal or to be accepting being patted when ferreting? 2 Quote Link to post
toby1066 413 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 They'll do better at ferreting than a purpose bred ferreting dog would do at coursing. Just curious as to the need for the dog to be at heal or to be accepting being patted when ferreting? spot on, surely the dog should be standing over the burry concentrating on whats going on under ground? Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 hang on lets look at it from a different angle RE : Had a couple of lads from Wales up today for a days coursing and one of the guys had a lovely 10 month old bitch pup with him that was predominantly bedlington blood ferreting dog. Now this youngster was a lovely looking animal and when it was on the game it was fairly steady respected the long slips and was mindfull of the quarry and was nice and sharp with a very good strike. BUT throuought the day the dog would lose ground pull up and just sniff about, . The young bitch would also stay just out of reach of the quarry and it quickly got tired, and then the next second would be nuzzling for attention. Now I do know that bedlington ferreting dogs have a special way about them and can be very slow at times but I was stood back looking at this really nice looking bitch and knew that the way she was behaving I would soon lose patience in her as a coursing dog. I honestly believe in horses for courses and I am convinced that this youngster will make a good catch dog when she matures I really can't see the bedlington saturated ferreting dog ever having the patience or speed and stamina to make a top grade coursing dog. 1 Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Fellas the description of the day was a generalisation of what the dog done not wether it was supposed to be over the warren or was being called just for a stroke. These incidents happened when nothing much was going on. However a young dog may well need to be called into heel because it is sticking it's head into a hole that could produce a bolt or because it's upsetting the nets. And I it could well be called in for a stroke and a bit of fuss because it has done something worthy of praise thus reinforcing the positive behaviour. I love fukcing smart arses. 4 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,146 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 I had a pure Saluki that sometimes went into the "stay three feet away" mode, and it's the most frustrating, infuriating thing ! The only way I could get him back when he was like this, was to get in the motor and drive a few feet away, stop and open a door; he would fly into the motor, every single time !! LOL !! One thing for certain though; I'd never take him or any dog like him, ferreting !! They are just not meant for it ! Cheers. Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 I had a pure Saluki that sometimes went into the "stay three feet away" mode, and it's the most frustrating, infuriating thing ! The only way I could get him back when he was like this, was to get in the motor and drive a few feet away, stop and open a door; he would fly into the motor, every single time !! LOL !! One thing for certain though; I'd never take him or any dog like him, ferreting !! They are just not meant for it ! Cheers. Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 lets be polite here and say they can test the patience of a saint .lol. but there are some that listen and do what their told when their told . my sons first cross which i bred can be very stubborn when out but is like a well trained spaniel when around the house and he has been in the house since 7 weeks old the litter sister which i kept back was very stubborn up untill about 10 months but is now very good as is the bitch my mate has got in fact this is superbly well trained far better than any of the others in the litter .but a saluki as a ferrreter wouldnt be manys first choice just has a collie x greyhound wouldnt be many s first choice for coursing on the big land .as in everything in life its horses for courses . Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 got saluki croses they all ferret but ive had twenty years of them , some take a few seasons to calm down some are calm from start got a pup at moment love people and affection even when hunting but some are the opposite and need lots of one to one , got an old dog tyne on eof the cleverest dogs ive saw and his pups on tune with me but had alot of socai upbringin one to one , they work for tit bits to , youre never there master at times but you have to no how to work round that Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 got saluki croses they all ferret but ive had twenty years of them , some take a few seasons to calm down some are calm from start got a pup at moment love people and affection even when hunting but some are the opposite and need lots of one to one , got an old dog tyne on eof the cleverest dogs ive saw and his pups on tune with me but had alot of socai upbringin one to one , they work for tit bits to , youre never there master at times but you have to no how to work round that your right there whin Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 boyo no disrespect but i can train a dog if i get in that mood for it , old tyne solwho was ahalf cross walked [bANNED TEXT] beside me and when ferreting new what was asked as i ahd taught hem as pups before they got into other types of game an dwhen the ground was slid they came on jaunts to ferret and it kept the bond with me as i ment sport , could say alot on how to train these types but not going to fech giving secrets up , a fech it i tell you another let my saluk cross in front seat whe she is young beside me teach her to fetch , so when roadsiding she jumps in motor , with game , as she thinks she is king sitting with her master , and other dog in back of pick up , you nrealy have to know dogs to get the best out of that breed there not a bred for socail gatherings at times lie a whippet or colie cross all huntingin a pa Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 got saluki croses they all ferret but ive had twenty years of them , some take a few seasons to calm down some are calm from start got a pup at moment love people and affection even when hunting but some are the opposite and need lots of one to one , got an old dog tyne on eof the cleverest dogs ive saw and his pups on tune with me but had alot of socai upbringin one to one , they work for tit bits to , youre never there master at times but you have to no how to work round that totally agree whin seen this in the saluki lurchers also but if one perceveres and his willing to put the effort and time in they can be good animals for those who want a animal for allround work both day and night . atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 took the 6mth sal lurcher out today with the bairns ferrit in pocket six nets ,no running just ongoing socialising learning the trade . AND HELL BE OUT TOMOZ ASWELL .ATB BUNNYS. 1 Quote Link to post
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