dai dogs 1,404 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 i know this land like the back of my hand. you can walk all day and not see a bird nevermind a fox. we are not in the dales here lads this is hard ground with not many charlies about its been hunted to death over the years. for these dogs to do what they do is some feat. offer still open. plus a few beers. cheers Dai 1 Quote Link to post
quadhunter 6 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Spot on Dai some days it would be easier looking for gold! Its a simple fact with out extreme nose and stamina,no find,no kill !! Quote Link to post
HALTY LAD 92 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Shit bag dogs, running around fix's like jibbing curs. Worst hunting dvd ever, rather watch the warrener going on about himself ! fecking spot on if you would like to bring your (lurchers ) down to the land that these dogs work on and show me they can do better.i will pay your expenses put you up in any local hotel. and if you prove that they can i will give you enough food to feed the lurchers you bring with you for 12months. thats an open offer for anyone and i dont even know the guy that owns these dogs,,...i know this ground.. cheers Dai nice offer matey, Ive seen these films, and the ground looks nice from where im sitting in the highlands. Theres hundreds of lads in the UK that work similar land and also A LOT ROUGHER AND STEEPER, and even for much tougher game. Im sure there will be plenty taking you up on your kind offer. there maybe rougher and steeper land in the uk . the ground may look nice but to find a fox on this land is another story. and as for other tougher game i know all about that,, cheers Dai Dont worry boot me matey, I appreciate the work that goes into taking charlie with lurchers on hill ground. Lad did well getting all that footage feck I wouldnt have the steady hand for that. Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Spot on Dai some days it would be easier looking for gold! Its a simple fact with out extreme nose and stamina,no find,no kill !! Those dogs do very well hunting them foxes on that vast open ground but on the other hand think they would fail to catch on smaller fields where the foxes would have a chance of getting away. Even doubled up they struggle to take the opportunity quick enough, any fox i my opinion would lap up that advantage and be gone. Good at what they do on that ground but definatly not fox dogs. 1 Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Spot on Dai some days it would be easier looking for gold! Its a simple fact with out extreme nose and stamina,no find,no kill !! Those dogs do very well hunting them foxes on that vast open ground but on the other hand think they would fail to catch on smaller fields where the foxes would have a chance of getting away. Even doubled up they struggle to take the opportunity quick enough, any fox i my opinion would lap up that advantage and be gone. Good at what they do on that ground but definatly not fox dogs. i have never killd a fox so i wouldnt no but you say not fox dogs butt when i watched this film they killd the foxs over and over butt isn't a fox dog a dog what kills fox's ? just theas dogs have diferent tekneaks of doing so Quote Link to post
HALTY LAD 92 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) In my opinion any dog that does its job is a good dog. I once had an argument with a west country chap about a past dog of mine that was a deer dog through and through. He took bigger deer than any of my other dogs had ever managed. This guy said theres no way he could even floor a hind, I said Id bring him down and he show me some deer. Well we found a group and he got a royal beating, he badly damaged shoulder ligaments... and I left a wiser man, if a bit deflated. However he came up to mine the next season and was forced to eat his words after seeing him run on his home mountain.. Edited January 15, 2012 by HALTY LAD Quote Link to post
Guest joball Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Dai, fare play to the guy he's out there doing it I'm not doubting that ! But where we hunt you carnt afford a dog to dance around a fox like a balerina given the slightest chance of escape and there gone, are dogs carnt chace them for miles like them dogs if they did we'd loose permission etc, as for coming up that's a kind offer, but it would bore the hell out of me buy the sounds of it, no effence tended. Would you be happy if your dogs danced around fox's like them? Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 had working beardie crosses would a had loved that type of hunting as i used to hunt big moors , saw pionter crosses hunt like that to mate only dogs ive saw like that ye there not much game but then when they get a scent well its game on as its sparsley populated, you need a dog that wants to rake for a good bit away hound blood would be perfect in the blood with good beardie collie crosss mixture Quote Link to post
quadhunter 6 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) stormrider i think you are missing my point if all the ground u hunt is as vast and open as this why keep a dog for small fields like i said no nose,no find,no kill ! Have had dogs in past excellent on lamp and with terriers but useless on this hill ground also had dogs that were top dollar on hill but shit lamp dogs its a case of horses for courses! Edited January 16, 2012 by quadhunter Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 canrt beat open space and freedom , i was at the winde up with the hancock thing lol im abugger , great vid , wcotish moors are like that vast and you have to hunt a lot to find afox Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Spot on Dai some days it would be easier looking for gold! Its a simple fact with out extreme nose and stamina,no find,no kill !! Those dogs do very well hunting them foxes on that vast open ground but on the other hand think they would fail to catch on smaller fields where the foxes would have a chance of getting away. Even doubled up they struggle to take the opportunity quick enough, any fox i my opinion would lap up that advantage and be gone. Good at what they do on that ground but definatly not fox dogs. i have never killd a fox so i wouldnt no but you say not fox dogs butt when i watched this film they killd the foxs over and over butt isn't a fox dog a dog what kills fox's ? just theas dogs have diferent tekneaks of doing so Yeah i suppose so if you look at it like that. I personally like a dog to be able to catch its quarry solo though, two dogs on any quarry narrows the the chance of it getting away ten fold. Plenty of dogs out there will catch a fox if it has the back up of another dog but put them same dogs on there own and a huge amount will not get the job done. All im saying is that those two dogs make the catching side look hard work. Iv only seen the first dvd maybe the others show just the one dog taking them on its own time after time? Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Spot on Dai some days it would be easier looking for gold! Its a simple fact with out extreme nose and stamina,no find,no kill !! Those dogs do very well hunting them foxes on that vast open ground but on the other hand think they would fail to catch on smaller fields where the foxes would have a chance of getting away. Even doubled up they struggle to take the opportunity quick enough, any fox i my opinion would lap up that advantage and be gone. Good at what they do on that ground but definatly not fox dogs. i have never killd a fox so i wouldnt no but you say not fox dogs butt when i watched this film they killd the foxs over and over butt isn't a fox dog a dog what kills fox's ? just theas dogs have diferent tekneaks of doing so Yeah i suppose so if you look at it like that. I personally like a dog to be able to catch its quarry solo though, two dogs on any quarry narrows the the chance of it getting away ten fold. Plenty of dogs out there will catch a fox if it has the back up of another dog but put them same dogs on there own and a huge amount will not get the job done. All im saying is that those two dogs make the catching side look hard work. Iv only seen the first dvd maybe the others show just the one dog taking them on its own time after time? i have only seen the 1st and ye i can see ya point Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 cacthing solo ask the farmer how he wants the hill fox caut at lambing there some tickets on here there vermin Quote Link to post
mystiko 17 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 All this drivvle about not being Spot on Dai some days it would be easier looking for gold! Its a simple fact with out extreme nose and stamina,no find,no kill !! Those dogs do very well hunting them foxes on that vast open ground but on the other hand think they would fail to catch on smaller fields where the foxes would have a chance of getting away. Even doubled up they struggle to take the opportunity quick enough, any fox i my opinion would lap up that advantage and be gone. Good at what they do on that ground but definatly not fox dogs. i have never killd a fox so i wouldnt no but you say not fox dogs butt when i watched this film they killd the foxs over and over butt isn't a fox dog a dog what kills fox's ? just theas dogs have diferent tekneaks of doing so Yeah i suppose so if you look at it like that. I personally like a dog to be able to catch its quarry solo though, two dogs on any quarry narrows the the chance of it getting away ten fold. Plenty of dogs out there will catch a fox if it has the back up of another dog but put them same dogs on there own and a huge amount will not get the job done. All im saying is that those two dogs make the catching side look hard work. Iv only seen the first dvd maybe the others show just the one dog taking them on its own time after time? single handed....if you actually watch the dvds you will see some taken single handed.It seems some folk are missing the point....it is about watching your dogs work and enjoying the day out.I am sure there is a few lads out on the fells...maybe one dog belongs to one lad and one to another. It is not a competition , it's a fieldsport!!! Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 All this drivvle about not being Spot on Dai some days it would be easier looking for gold! Its a simple fact with out extreme nose and stamina,no find,no kill !! Those dogs do very well hunting them foxes on that vast open ground but on the other hand think they would fail to catch on smaller fields where the foxes would have a chance of getting away. Even doubled up they struggle to take the opportunity quick enough, any fox i my opinion would lap up that advantage and be gone. Good at what they do on that ground but definatly not fox dogs. i have never killd a fox so i wouldnt no but you say not fox dogs butt when i watched this film they killd the foxs over and over butt isn't a fox dog a dog what kills fox's ? just theas dogs have diferent tekneaks of doing so Yeah i suppose so if you look at it like that. I personally like a dog to be able to catch its quarry solo though, two dogs on any quarry narrows the the chance of it getting away ten fold. Plenty of dogs out there will catch a fox if it has the back up of another dog but put them same dogs on there own and a huge amount will not get the job done. All im saying is that those two dogs make the catching side look hard work. Iv only seen the first dvd maybe the others show just the one dog taking them on its own time after time? single handed....if you actually watch the dvds you will see some taken single handed.It seems some folk are missing the point....it is about watching your dogs work and enjoying the day out.I am sure there is a few lads out on the fells...maybe one dog belongs to one lad and one to another. It is not a competition , it's a fieldsport!!! Its not drivle mate and yes i agree its all about the day out and watching the dogs hunt but some people like myself like lurchers to be a little different than your kind. Yeah you do see the one dog a couple of times on his own with his quarry but you also see that same dog running the fox only a foot in front, running it round and round in circles a numbers of times and then the filming stops and goes to another scene before its caught!! Maybe the battery on the camera dies at that point each time.. A good watch if thats your thing , all the best. chris 1 Quote Link to post
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