Foxing with lurchers on the fells 1 2 3

[The one 8,470]

Why is it when you see merels there Hancock's ? . Boy certainly put enough foxes in the bag but i think when you see the dogs marking the dens a terrier could have accounted for a few more ?.

[dymented 2,220]

The are on e bay now for £15 each

£2.25 ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Hunting-/7301/i.html?_catref=1&_ipg=&_ssn=grandads_clearout&_trksid=p3911.c0.m1538 look at the other things hes got for sale

[rabbit mad 10]

£25 for all 3 on ebay

[mystiko 17]

As for them jumping around jibbing in and out...that's called intelligence...why take bites when you don't need to...didn't see any getting away.Them dogs were class...probably not as hard as the hardest bull cross ever but could a bull x hunt up like that..I doubt it...they would probably wipe out half the sheep population on the fell...no argument they were proper traditional lurchers..simple as

[blackmaggie 3,376]

intelligence more like scared of the front end and a bull x would take half the sheep out dont think so not if there broke to stock like any lurcher should be and collie xs have been known to worry sheep and any film can be edited to make it look like they missed nothing

[quadhunter 6]

not hancock bred, greyhoound cross welsh hill collie i beleive! In those vast spaces hunting ability and intelligence will put more foxes in the bag than pure gameness

[toby1066 413]

got to agree with craig the hunting part is good but they are not the gamest of dogs and as for bull x killing sheep im no huge fan of bull x but trained right they can be as steady with stock as any other lurcher x so to say that shows a lack of knowledge about lurchers in general. but then so does going to hancock for a working collie lurcher when theres plenty out there from working parents not puppy farmers if you can be bothered to look abit further than the back page of the cmw

[philkemp 50]

Bit shitty saying bull x will wipe out all sheep mines fine we them as should any lurcher

[mystiko 17]

The side of the head and the throat is the front end is it not,but it does not matter where they are grabbed as long as they are caught. I have owned both bull and collie crosses, both of which were broke to stock...but I know of a few bull crosses that are that keen to the point if they miss their quarry the are partial to a bit mutton. As for the dogs bred from welsh hill collies...that may be true...or is it a guess.I thought they were red and white...or is there merle in that line also?

[quadhunter 6]

Don't need to be steady to sheep have 2 be rock solid safe doesn't matter what cross the dog is ! Hill sheep totaly different to lowland ones don't flock together solo ewes will spring up in front of dogs in cover and run just like a deer! When the dogs are at times over 1/2 mile away hunting u have to have complete trust in them!

[quadhunter 6]

welsh hill collies come in all merle colours,red and white,black and tan,and black and white

[mystiko 17]

Fair enough about the different colours,but really they are border collies that have been bred and worked in wales,on the hills. But back to my original question,are they Hancock bred because nobody really seams to know for sure?

[blackmaggie 3,376]

The side of the head and the throat is the front end is it not,but it does not matter where they are grabbed as long as they are caught. I have owned both bull and collie crosses, both of which were broke to stock...but I know of a few bull crosses that are that keen to the point if they miss their quarry the are partial to a bit mutton. As for the dogs bred from welsh hill collies...that may be true...or is it a guess.I thought they were red and white...or is there merle in that line also?

if they are partial to sheep they are not broke to stock properly and any lurcher can do for sheep whats your problem with bullxs and if they keep jumping and jibbing in and out as you put it at the front they will get bit

[dai dogs 1,404]

these dogs know the job they been trained to do and do it very well indeed.

iv hunted the same hills for over 35 years and can say this is very hard land to work dogs on.

give credit where credit is due lads ffs..

[mystiko 17]

Good to see someone who respects good dogs without trying to fault judge....As for the problem of getting bit...it's ok to get a few medals on your face,but if you can avoid it why not