gnasher16 30,118 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Ive asked a few of my equally divvy mates and im just getting puzzled looks so thought id ask on here......i need to regularly pump around 100 gallons of water a distance of about 200 feet at a slight incline..........ive so far been told of a few options....a submerssible/bilge pump type of thing which i know a little bit about........or a hydraulic ram pump which although ive looked up and like the look of i dont really have much idea what one is...............is there any of you smart folk who could throw any light on the subject ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Clarkes do a range of submersible pumps that will do that no probs mate. Speak to them about what size you need. Machine mart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reddawn 2,173 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 im sure with the ram pump it uses water coming down to make water go up if that makes sense, i done a few bits of maintenance on 1 when i was doing engineering, but that was yonks ago , why not just use the submersible pump, seeing as you know a bit about them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 A medium sized whale bilge pump will suffice gnasher any boat chandler or on line Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matt_hooks 188 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Firstly, what's your head? I.E. how much height does the water need to gain? The distance pumped is pretty much irrelevant, it's the height gained that's important. Secondly, how long is an acceptable time to pump your 100 gallons. Thirdly, how much do you have to spend? The submersible type pumps will do the job at a reasonable head, at a reasonable flow rate and a reasonable cost. Obviously as you increase head, or increase flow rate, you increase your cost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dymented 2,220 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 very simple to install all automatic only comes on when it needs to with the mercury switch £24 on line will do the job you need bud Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 im sure with the ram pump it uses water coming down to make water go up if that makes sense, i done a few bits of maintenance on 1 when i was doing engineering, but that was yonks ago , why not just use the submersible pump, seeing as you know a bit about them Thats it...i was reading all about some mush from Cheshire in the 1700,s who invented it i like the idea of using water to pump water rather than the easy way out with electric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reddawn 2,173 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 im sure with the ram pump it uses water coming down to make water go up if that makes sense, i done a few bits of maintenance on 1 when i was doing engineering, but that was yonks ago , why not just use the submersible pump, seeing as you know a bit about them Thats it...i was reading all about some mush from Cheshire in the 1700,s who invented it i like the idea of using water to pump water rather than the easy way out with electric i think id go with the submersible pump, that small cost will probs mean the job gets doner far quicker, but im positive when i was playing about with 1, the guy who owned it said lots of folk make them themselves, an they are easy to build an run, but as i said it was a long time ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Submersible bud,, easy,, and with the switch fitted can be left in place to operate at a set level. Used hundreds at the old job, and they are reliable as feck,, and easy too fix if they die. Clarkes are cheap, local(ish) and have a decent warrenty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longdogbow 12 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 my dad about 10 years ago bought a briggs&stratton ditch drainage pump from clarkes.would empty a 55 gallon barrel in minutes when we first tried it out.if a remember right had about a 50mm bore on the pipe.thats as far as my experience goes with this stuff. think he paid around 200 notes for it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Firstly, what's your head? I.E. how much height does the water need to gain? The distance pumped is pretty much irrelevant, it's the height gained that's important. Secondly, how long is an acceptable time to pump your 100 gallons. Thirdly, how much do you have to spend? The submersible type pumps will do the job at a reasonable head, at a reasonable flow rate and a reasonable cost. Obviously as you increase head, or increase flow rate, you increase your cost. Ok..........height it will need to rise is probably only about 3 metres but like i say thats over about 200 feet.... An acceptable time would be an hour if ive got to be there or if i could fit some kind of shut off valve,who cares ! Moneys not an issue within reason. Where its going to be pumped from doesnt have an electric supply hence i was liking the idea of those ram pump things.......but......if it came to it im sure i could get one added thats not too big an issue....but a mains water supply i think is out the question ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Firstly, what's your head? I.E. how much height does the water need to gain? The distance pumped is pretty much irrelevant, it's the height gained that's important. Secondly, how long is an acceptable time to pump your 100 gallons. Thirdly, how much do you have to spend? The submersible type pumps will do the job at a reasonable head, at a reasonable flow rate and a reasonable cost. Obviously as you increase head, or increase flow rate, you increase your cost. Hand bilge pump will pump that no problem good cardio as well lol Ok..........height it will need to rise is probably only about 3 metres but like i say thats over about 200 feet.... An acceptable time would be an hour if ive got to be there or if i could fit some kind of shut off valve,who cares ! Moneys not an issue within reason. Where its going to be pumped from doesnt have an electric supply hence i was liking the idea of those ram pump things.......but......if it came to it im sure i could get one added thats not too big an issue....but a mains water supply i think is out the question ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redcharge 378 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) We use these a fair bit in work, It should do the job also its 4 stroke so no need for an electric supply, you would just need to buy the hose and couplers but they're pretty inexpensive. http://www.justgenerators.co.uk/pages/HondaWP20.htm Edited January 14, 2012 by redcharge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matt_hooks 188 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 A 3 meter head is easy. One of the cheap submersible pumps will do the job fine, but you'll need a power supply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 What about this bad boy .......anyone ever used something like this ? 135 litres a minute !!....tin of spinach and away we go.....and no electric. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PATAY-DD120-HAND-DIAPHRAGM-BILGE-PUMP-FLOOD-BOAT-135Li-Min-/170760942002?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_BoatEquipment_Accessories_SM&hash=item27c22531b2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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