Basics.

[THLpatrick 555]

Right i know the Basics of training, your dog, socialise, sit stay down, jump, retreive and re-call.

 

My problem is at the moment re-call, one when she gets bord and wants to find her own fun % two round my house there is barely and dogs that she can be introduced to, so when she does see a dog no matter how far, she legs it after them, they can be round 4 corners but when i catch up she's there playing..

 

Ive decided on re-call after some advice to get a long rope and tie her up at the field at the back of my house where she likes to explore and when i want her to come in, call the command (or whistle if i get hold of one) and if she does not come, begin to real her in and have some real nice meaty treats at the end.

 

As for socialising, i take her the park and she see's loads of dogs but if i let her off oh no its not the one she wants to play with but all, i basically want to bore her off dogs so there no big thing in the future, any advice would be much appreciated,thanks Paddy

[skycat 6,173]

Dogs are social creatures, and to expect a pup not to want to run off and play with other dogs is impossible. The best thing you can do is to find a few like minded people with sociable dogs, ones which she can play with, to let her be a pup and enjoy herself. If you always try and keep her away from them, the worse she will get. She'll get more and more desperate to interact with other dogs, even unsuitable ones.

 

Don't worry, she will grow out of this stage, but the best way forward is to let her get it out of her system. Try and find someone else with a youngish dog of nice temperament and similar size. If she tries to run off and play with other dogs in the distance, get her coming to you first at home or out with no distractions. Tug training is ideal for this as it focuses the pup on you in the best possible way: she can burn off that drive and energy playing with you, and if you teach the recall with this game your job will be a lot easier, though I'm not saying it will work every time with a puppy which wants to interact with other dogs.

 

Try to allow her to play with safe dogs which are under control as much as possible and she'll get over the stage before you know it.

 

Edited to add: I can't remember quite how old your pup is, but by the time she's around 9-10 months old she might even go through a stage of not daring to go near other dogs. This is also quite normal in a pup's development. The behaviour she's going through at the moment, if she is still under 6-7 months, is also quite normal. Ride with it and try to make yourself the most exciting thing on the planet: someone she can come flying back to for a bit of fun and games.

 

Don't try to call her back if she's dead set on running off to another dog, as she won't obey you at all, as you've found out, and it just teaches her that you can be ignored. Hopefully she won't meet up with a dog that wants to kill her either. I try not to let pups off the lead unless I know the dogs in the distance and I know they're OK and that their owners understand mine is just a pup.

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Right i know the Basics of training, your dog, socialise, sit stay down, jump, retreive and re-call.

 

My problem is at the moment re-call, one when she gets bord and wants to find her own fun % two round my house there is barely and dogs that she can be introduced to, so when she does see a dog no matter how far, she legs it after them, they can be round 4 corners but when i catch up she's there playing..

 

Ive decided on re-call after some advice to get a long rope and tie her up at the field at the back of my house where she likes to explore and when i want her to come in, call the command (or whistle if i get hold of one) and if she does not come, begin to real her in and have some real nice meaty treats at the end.

 

As for socialising, i take her the park and she see's loads of dogs but if i let her off oh no its not the one she wants to play with but all, i basically want to bore her off dogs so there no big thing in the future, any advice would be much appreciated,thanks Paddy

There was a topic where I'm % certain you gave some cracking info for another member regarding recall, have you tried that your self it might sound dumb but it wasn't to bad advice at all, skykat has got it spot on it's a pup thing most will wanna explore other dogs and say hello but they do grow out of it. you can do basic recall in the house with treats first I show them the treats in my hands to get attention the walk around the house calling them and praising when there following and here or there give a treat then after that I go into another room then call if they come they get a treat or alot of praise, I don't always give food as I don't want them to become food dependent for recall. Then do the same in a field, when there's another dog around do the same training it works as a distraction when other dogs around and if they like the treats enough there stay for the food I make a game out of it. Until treats arnt used and praise becomes the only reward and maybe a play with the tug toy i'l keep in me pocket. Main thing is repitition they get there eventually

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Also. While out keep calling her in and putting her back on her lead and walk for a minute and then let her off again that will stop her thinking when the lead goes on it's time for home

[Casso 1,261]

Right i know the Basics of training, your dog, socialise, sit stay down, jump, retreive and re-call.

 

My problem is at the moment re-call, one when she gets bord and wants to find her own fun % two round my house there is barely and dogs that she can be introduced to, so when she does see a dog no matter how far, she legs it after them, they can be round 4 corners but when i catch up she's there playing..

 

Ive decided on re-call after some advice to get a long rope and tie her up at the field at the back of my house where she likes to explore and when i want her to come in, call the command (or whistle if i get hold of one) and if she does not come, begin to real her in and have some real nice meaty treats at the end.

 

As for socialising, i take her the park and she see's loads of dogs but if i let her off oh no its not the one she wants to play with but all, i basically want to bore her off dogs so there no big thing in the future, any advice would be much appreciated,thanks Paddy

 

paddy your problem is not recall if the pups mindset is already focused on other energy in the form of a dog, your pup see's other mutts as the best place to focus its energy, its about making yourself more interesting to your pup

from an early age i accept any sort of contact with the pup in whatever form it takes, jumping up , biting ,playfighting, i just try to manage and introduce something we can play fight together with, in other words a tug item,

its been done a dozen times on here but your mutt is just looking for a form not even a dog a form, which is the best use of its energy with the dog acting in its most predator mode, that means a dog chasing down latching on and sinking its teeth into something and shaking it out, just like canines do during play and for real in the wild,

The dog doesn't care what form it takes, human, canine, primate, running dogs are generally focused on rabbits and other prey items, but can be stimulated by anything , plastic bags blowing in the wild, rag for the whippet, so its not the item its the energy in the item , so why cant we be the biggest focus for the dogs energy ,?? well we can , its no big deal ,

that means that the dog wont be looking towards the horizon for stimulation but to us

if there was an item where if you got the dog hooked on it that you could control him, interact with him, train him, exercise and treat him it would be a tug item, it may not be for folk who have a good history of working with dogs and understand them and their motivations but for anyone having problems keeping your dogs attention focused on you when out, its ideal

best of luck with whatever you do, but working with your pups natural instincts are alot easier then pulling against them,

 

 

[THLpatrick 555]

thanks for the replies people, yeah i have a few people who i can call to get out with there dogs but they always have work and what not, i do take her the park but then theres always little kids and i worry about her jumping on one because they all go mad when they see her, hopefully this will be resoloved and re-call sorted in the next few months

 

 

skycat- the pup is 9 and a half months

[skycat 6,173]

You should try and go somewhere quieter for one to one training sessions: your pup is like a kid in a sweet shop with so many distractions: kids, dogs, people throwing things for dogs. Yes, its good socialisation for pups to meet everyone, but you can't expect a steady, sensible pup if there's kids all over it all the time, no to mention other dogs which aren't under close control of their owners.

 

Meeting others is fine, but you need to work on the recall, the one to one bone with you and your pup WITHOUT lots of distractions first. Don't forget too, that certain behaviours can become a habit all to easily unless you correct them properly. How often do I see adult, grown dogs which don't listen to their owners at all: tearing about and doing exactly as they please! These dogs have learned that their owner is not in control, so they do as they want: I reckon that around 90% of pet owners don't even realise that the dog is working them, not the other way round. Being as dogs are pack animals, social creatures, most do come back to their owners in the end, they have a routine: they go out, play around with other dogs, then get tired, bored, had enough, so they go back to their owners to go home and stuff their faces again: most of today's pet dogs are overweight and underexercised anyway.

 

Don't fall into the trap of behaving like everyone else you meet in the park. You have a hunting machine in the making, not some sloppy fat pet: you need to work on the control NOW, before it is too late.. Get the pup out on her own, even if it is just down a quiet street with no traffic. Work on getting her focused on YOU, for fun, excitement etc. Like Casso says.

 

If you just take her out without bothering to work on the bond, the relationship between the two of you, then she is bound to go off to other dogs where there is more fun to be had. Don't feel an idiot jumping around and yelling silly things, if that's what it takes to get the dog to come and be interested in you. But get the pup focused on an item: a rope tug toy, a ball, anything which gets her interest: make it a special toy/thing which she can become a bit obsessive about: only use it when out on these sort of training walks, and never let her play with it at home: the toy should be linked completely with having fun with YOU, and only YOU.

[THLpatrick 555]

Thanks alot skycat, im going to go the back field where i live, only my dogs go on, going to try using a long rope and tug toy and treats,hopefully she will be corrected within the next 2months!

[lost scouse 46]

paddy if you want i can pop round through the week see if i can help give me a pm Degsy

[gasaxeman 167]

 

 

 

skycat- the pup is 9 and a half months

 

 

 

 

 

 

my dogs 12months old same problem i have been using a combi click and whistle use it in the house to get his attention when he comes give him a treat do this up about seven times then lay off as he can get bored again tug toys and the advice you have already been given is sound advice .as for the treats i use denture chews from bakers then slice them very small £1 a pack so get plenty use out of a pack . its just perserverance and time and you will get there and start seeing results which is the best part.