Question for busterdog

[sammcc 229]

From your previous posts I noted your comments about your dogs, n/s dogs having problems with there eyes.

To what extent has this problem went, has it lead to blindness,or having to have the eyes removed or in the extrem cases has the dog needed to be put to sleep.

Also if you had it all to do again would you put this strain into your dogs knowing what you know now.

The dogs that developed this eye problem did they lead a full working life or was it cut short.

Hope I don't offend in asking these questions busterdog and if I do I apologise ,it's just we have a couple of dogs here with the eye problem and would like to hear your views on it.

Thanks for any help info on the subject.

[Guest dee mac]

i know that for past few years we ev been having probs with the dogs eye s hazing over after digs and like wee red sores coming on the eye itself we got good eye drops and it clears the prob but its only in recent few years that its become common just too add all the dogs eyes are cleaned out after there dug i know it might not be what your talking about but just thought i d stick it out there too see if anyone else having this prob.

[Guest busterdog]

The only eye problem i've had was just cosmetic IE their eyes were orange coloured. Nick had a few with glaucoma but i've never had it nor have i known anyone else to have it. As for would i use his blood again if i had the choice, i was sold the first one and it was all Nicks blood, it was that good i've never gone away from it in many many years. If i could have my time again i'de stick to the older part of the line as IMO it was never bettered.

[sammcc 229]

Thanks for the reply,unfortunatly the dogs here have a more severe problem.

 

[Guest rowhoish]

sammcc back in the 90s dogs bred from PH Bertie [breay line] when mated to Goulds BLIND Nigger produced dogs/bitch with glaucoma. I had a dog as a pup from this breeding that after i gave him back to his breeder that developed the disease, and had to have both his eyes removed, his line was discontinued. This dogs sister also developed the disease, and can be found in the breeding of some Spartacus lines today. Glaucoma can develope from injury to the eye, or can be inherited from 1 of the parents, it is wrong to think both parents need to carry the gene for the mutation to occur, pups can be born with no sign of the disease, but would be carriers so if i was you, and you can i would get to a vet before breeding it into your lines. good luck.

Edited January 13, 2012 by rowhoish

[Guest wurzil]

busterdog when you mention the older part of the line what dogs are ya refering to and what dogs were brought in to make it the new line that your not maybe as happy with as the old line? cheers.

[Guest busterdog]

The best dogs i've personally seen were bred down from the Warlock to Rags mating.

It's not my place to blame a specific dog or bitch that didn't work out, even when they didn't work out there was still good returns.

 

It all comes down to standards.

[Guest busterdog]

The best dogs i've personally seen were bred down from the Warlock to Rags mating.

It's not my place to blame a specific dog or bitch that didn't work out, even when they didn't work out there was still good returns.

 

It all comes down to standards.

 

I'm sick of being the kill joy mate, i'm turning over a new leaf lol.

[Guest wurzil]

The best dogs i've personally seen were bred down from the Warlock to Rags mating.

It's not my place to blame a specific dog or bitch that didn't work out, even when they didn't work out there was still good returns.

 

It all comes down to standards.

 

I'm sick of being the kill joy mate, i'm turning over a new leaf lol.

naaaar ya cant pull that one it wont fool us matey and the mr nice guy routine dont suit ya haha

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

Eh come on wurzil this is a sensible thread l about time as well

Edited January 13, 2012 by staffs riffraff

[Guest wurzil]

haha never read a sensible thread on here yet staffs riffraff

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Glaucoma can rear its ugly head at any age in a terrier ,sadly after a bitch has been bred from we have found as the man is right in saying its inherited .Its not necessarily the end for the terrier as we have two bitches with this condition.One thats 8 just gone blind in one eye and still going and a young daughter of 18 months thats just started .We know now its the bitch thats the carrier as all her last litter have it so none will be bred from again .Pity as its been a good line .What we cant trace is the introduction of this malady as like i said the old bitch was fine until the age of 8 but a lots happened since her birth . Although its not that commen it can manifest in a strain if your arnt watchful im told so be aware of it .Sore eyes

[MUDD 374]

Glaucoma can rear its ugly head at any age in a terrier ,sadly after a bitch has been bred from we have found as the man is right in saying its inherited .Its not necessarily the end for the terrier as we have two bitches with this condition.One thats 8 just gone blind in one eye and still going and a young daughter of 18 months thats just started .We know now its the bitch thats the carrier as all her last litter have it so none will be bred from again .Pity as its been a good line .What we cant trace is the introduction of this malady as like i said the old bitch was fine until the age of 8 but a lots happened since her birth . Although its not that commen it can manifest in a strain if your arnt watchful im told so be aware of it .Sore eyes

Would your two bitchs be the first case of this known to you from your older bitches breeding ?

Edited January 14, 2012 by MUDD

[vinnie 3]

had this trouble with ns bred bitch 8 years ago,completely blind within 24hrs vet could do nothing and so pts, spoke to ns and he had same problem with a bitch and pups destroyed whole litter as he said he couldn't face them turning out to be good workers then suffering the same problem, that said my whole kennel goes back to that bitch and no problems since, the risk you take i venture.

[lilvixen 26]

Sammc and any one else with eye problems in their dogs have a look at primary lens luxation (PLL) best place for info is the Animal health trust (AHT). You might find it's not Glaucoma. There has been a genetic test developed for PLL which includes "patterdale terriers" so they must have seen cases. I haven't got time to go into it now and the test is not cheap but can help with future breeding.