Trev Smilerface 38 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 And besides who makes the "rules" for war......its laughable....geneva convention crap ...i mean come on, if your fighting for something that you beleive to be yours ....are you really gonna sit down write the rules beforehand...i think not. If theres rules in war then im the pope. May as well get the checkers board out and see who wins on that ........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.P.R 2,798 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm not gonna argue. It's my opinion and the only one that matters to me really. You don't have a clue what your talking about. Who's fighting for what's theirs? Not the Taliban. You should read up on the subject before shouting off. The geneva convention is set out to keep suffering to a minimum, yes I agree that it's all brutal but rules dictate that the Brits can't do anything that will increase suffering. For example using HE bombs with White phosphorous, who doesn't get killed gets burnt alive etc. How can you defend them? I'm trying my best not to argue like I said but Britain sticks to the geneva convention and the soldiers are just doing their job. Take a look at where your loyalties lie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I can't believe anyone can say "both sides are as bad and each other". The western military make painstaking to get it right even if the outcome isn't perfect. Again I've never been there and I'm glad as well but having read countless books on the subject it amazes me how restrained our military are. We're talking young lads half my age showing retraint that would be admerable from a 50 year old. Oh and they're put in danger's way when a more indestriminant bombing or drone attack would do the job because our military want to draw out the fighters in order to take out only the guilty. I'll bet half the time our inteligence know where some of these targets are but don't level the whole village like the Russians would have done or even the Allies during the 2nd world war. There will always be horrors or mistakes but the magnitude of them are far less than in just about any other war in history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trev Smilerface 38 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm not gonna argue. It's my opinion and the only one that matters to me really. You don't have a clue what your talking about. Who's fighting for what's theirs? Not the Taliban. You should read up on the subject before shouting off. The geneva convention is set out to keep suffering to a minimum, yes I agree that it's all brutal but rules dictate that the Brits can't do anything that will increase suffering. For example using HE bombs with White phosphorous, who doesn't get killed gets burnt alive etc. How can you defend them? I'm trying my best not to argue like I said but Britain sticks to the geneva convention and the soldiers are just doing their job. Take a look at where your loyalties lie. Im talking about war in general not just the ragheads. So i will shout off if i wish . And as for loyalties......loyalties to who?? A mongrel government ....dont think so. "My" coutry..........ive go less rights in my country than all the foreigners, in this day and age why should i be loyal to my country.....whats it giving me. Nothing i dont live there and hope to never live there again. Glad im out of it in all honestly, gone to the dogs. Not arguing just voicing my opinion 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buch 145 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I just seen this quaote from a retired US Army Lt Col, Allen West I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I re...call media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractorsbeing... killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah. “All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq? “The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps; videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter. “As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, SHUT YOUR MOUTH, war is hell. Hard to disagree when you put it like that. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 People are judging them from a peaceful civilian perspective not in the horrors of war so the only people that SHOULD judge them are there peers. As has been said they do a lot worse to the living never mind the dead Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trev Smilerface 38 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 looks like the Geneva convention didnt work http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/10/iraq-prisoners-abuse-british-military OR here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073002/Military-Cross-hero-faces-war-crimes-trial-cutting-fingers-dead-Taliban-fighters.html :whistling: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 looks like the Geneva convention didnt work http://www.guardian....ritish-military OR here http://www.dailymail...n-fighters.html :whistling: so f*****g what ,not like they care about thier bodies being intact when they strap a load of explosives to themselfs and kill a shit load of innocent people. as for torturing them. couldnt care less. if it saves one british soldiers life or stops a terrorist attack then torture them everyday to get info. like has been said they are not shy at mutilating and torture.whats good for the goose.cant believe some folk are actualling defending a load of dead terrorists and in the same breath slating our soldiers. f**k them and those who have sympathy for them. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trev Smilerface 38 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 looks like the Geneva convention didnt work http://www.guardian....ritish-military OR here http://www.dailymail...n-fighters.html :whistling: so f*****g what ,not like they care about thier bodies being intact when they strap a load of explosives to themselfs and kill a shit load of innocent people. as for torturing them. couldnt care less. if it saves one british soldiers life or stops a terrorist attack then torture them everyday to get info. like has been said they are not shy at mutilating and torture.whats good for the goose.cant believe some folk are actualling defending a load of dead terrorists and in the same breath slating our soldiers. f**k them and those who have sympathy for them. Dont beleive anywhere in any of my comments on this thread have i defended them Just proving my point that in these situations BOTH are bad as one another....i rest my case. :whistling: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 looks like the Geneva convention didnt work http://www.guardian....ritish-military OR here http://www.dailymail...n-fighters.html :whistling: so f*****g what ,not like they care about thier bodies being intact when they strap a load of explosives to themselfs and kill a shit load of innocent people. as for torturing them. couldnt care less. if it saves one british soldiers life or stops a terrorist attack then torture them everyday to get info. like has been said they are not shy at mutilating and torture.whats good for the goose.cant believe some folk are actualling defending a load of dead terrorists and in the same breath slating our soldiers. f**k them and those who have sympathy for them. Dont beleive anywhere in any of my comments on this thread have i defended them Just proving my point that in these situations BOTH are bad as one another....i rest my case. :whistling: both as bad as each other. aye so they f*****g are. got one better anyone who involves themself in terrorist activety ought to be shot on sight. they are the scurge of this planet and should be exterminated at every opportunity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.P.R 2,798 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Both as bad as each other......... My arse and you are talking out your sh!tter. Have you seen what they have seen? Put up with what they have? Or been through what soldiers have over there? You don't know nothing and yes you Should take a look at where your loyalties lie, putting up your wee links, your doing my head in talking shite. Away and P!ss off on something you know feck all about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trev Smilerface 38 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Both as bad as each other......... My arse and you are talking out your sh!tter. Have you seen what they have seen? Put up with what they have? Or been through what soldiers have over there? You don't know nothing and yes you Should take a look at where your loyalties lie, putting up your wee links, your doing my head in talking shite. Away and P!ss off on something you know feck all about. :clapper: Oh dear hit a nerve there did it :rofl: Talking shite is your description.....but its fact its there for all to see, take your rose tinted glasses off and look at the real world ....you might just see that "Great" Britain aint so "great" after all. You see them signs around "Proud to be British" ....i do and i laugh at it. What the hell is there to be proud about being British anymore??? Not a fecking lot thats for sure. Britain is a Multi Cultural Society...which it SHOULDNT be. It should be a Tolerant Society. Difference on the two is : a multi cultural society highlights the difference between different cultures. A tolerant society is one that ignores differences. So next time your putting your Christmas decorations up in your "Great" country ....remember not to put up happy christmas for your actions may cause offence ......fecking laughable aint it ...huh your GREAT country but you can celebrate your own traditions in it ..........Get over it ...the country a mess and just going to get worse and you stick to loving it.....cause it loves you more for bending over and spreading those cheeks and taking it harder up the rear end So your Great Britain is losing its identity. Why because the great british government is bowing down and kissing arses in fear of upsetting non british residents. Yeah a truly GREAT Britain. And look at the history of the so called Great Country........some of it is shocking ...and as for the links ....well maybe your a fantasist that doesnt like being told the truth ......Get down to Specsavers they got a 2-4-1 deal on rose tinted glasses. :whistling: Proud to be British ..................................................dont make me laugh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Both as bad as each other......... My arse and you are talking out your sh!tter. Have you seen what they have seen? Put up with what they have? Or been through what soldiers have over there? You don't know nothing and yes you Should take a look at where your loyalties lie, putting up your wee links, your doing my head in talking shite. Away and P!ss off on something you know feck all about. :clapper: Oh dear hit a nerve there did it :rofl: Talking shite is your description.....but its fact its there for all to see, take your rose tinted glasses off and look at the real world ....you might just see that "Great" Britain aint so "great" after all. You see them signs around "Proud to be British" ....i do and i laugh at it. What the hell is there to be proud about being British anymore??? Not a fecking lot thats for sure. Britain is a Multi Cultural Society...which it SHOULDNT be. It should be a Tolerant Society. Difference on the two is : a multi cultural society highlights the difference between different cultures. A tolerant society is one that ignores differences. So next time your putting your Christmas decorations up in your "Great" country ....remember not to put up happy christmas for your actions may cause offence ......fecking laughable aint it ...huh your GREAT country but you can celebrate your own traditions in it ..........Get over it ...the country a mess and just going to get worse and you stick to loving it.....cause it loves you more for bending over and spreading those cheeks and taking it harder up the rear end So your Great Britain is losing its identity. Why because the great british government is bowing down and kissing arses in fear of upsetting non british residents. Yeah a truly GREAT Britain. And look at the history of the so called Great Country........some of it is shocking ...and as for the links ....well maybe your a fantasist that doesnt like being told the truth ......Get down to Specsavers they got a 2-4-1 deal on rose tinted glasses. :whistling: Proud to be British ..................................................dont make me laugh. why dont you shut your foul gob.you live in ireland why the fuk do you care,or is it the case of hate on the brits whether your talking shit or not. thats the gratitude we get for trying to help your economy out. tut tut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trev Smilerface 38 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Both as bad as each other......... My arse and you are talking out your sh!tter. Have you seen what they have seen? Put up with what they have? Or been through what soldiers have over there? You don't know nothing and yes you Should take a look at where your loyalties lie, putting up your wee links, your doing my head in talking shite. Away and P!ss off on something you know feck all about. :clapper: Oh dear hit a nerve there did it :rofl: Talking shite is your description.....but its fact its there for all to see, take your rose tinted glasses off and look at the real world ....you might just see that "Great" Britain aint so "great" after all. You see them signs around "Proud to be British" ....i do and i laugh at it. What the hell is there to be proud about being British anymore??? Not a fecking lot thats for sure. Britain is a Multi Cultural Society...which it SHOULDNT be. It should be a Tolerant Society. Difference on the two is : a multi cultural society highlights the difference between different cultures. A tolerant society is one that ignores differences. So next time your putting your Christmas decorations up in your "Great" country ....remember not to put up happy christmas for your actions may cause offence ......fecking laughable aint it ...huh your GREAT country but you can celebrate your own traditions in it ..........Get over it ...the country a mess and just going to get worse and you stick to loving it.....cause it loves you more for bending over and spreading those cheeks and taking it harder up the rear end So your Great Britain is losing its identity. Why because the great british government is bowing down and kissing arses in fear of upsetting non british residents. Yeah a truly GREAT Britain. And look at the history of the so called Great Country........some of it is shocking ...and as for the links ....well maybe your a fantasist that doesnt like being told the truth ......Get down to Specsavers they got a 2-4-1 deal on rose tinted glasses. :whistling: Proud to be British ..................................................dont make me laugh. why dont you shut your foul gob.you live in ireland why the fuk do you care,or is it the case of hate on the brits whether your talking shit or not. thats the gratitude we get for trying to help your economy out. tut tut My economy...im scottish ya tool...living in ireland.....truth hurts there too huh!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Both as bad as each other......... My arse and you are talking out your sh!tter. Have you seen what they have seen? Put up with what they have? Or been through what soldiers have over there? You don't know nothing and yes you Should take a look at where your loyalties lie, putting up your wee links, your doing my head in talking shite. Away and P!ss off on something you know feck all about. :clapper: Oh dear hit a nerve there did it :rofl: Talking shite is your description.....but its fact its there for all to see, take your rose tinted glasses off and look at the real world ....you might just see that "Great" Britain aint so "great" after all. You see them signs around "Proud to be British" ....i do and i laugh at it. What the hell is there to be proud about being British anymore??? Not a fecking lot thats for sure. Britain is a Multi Cultural Society...which it SHOULDNT be. It should be a Tolerant Society. Difference on the two is : a multi cultural society highlights the difference between different cultures. A tolerant society is one that ignores differences. So next time your putting your Christmas decorations up in your "Great" country ....remember not to put up happy christmas for your actions may cause offence ......fecking laughable aint it ...huh your GREAT country but you can celebrate your own traditions in it ..........Get over it ...the country a mess and just going to get worse and you stick to loving it.....cause it loves you more for bending over and spreading those cheeks and taking it harder up the rear end So your Great Britain is losing its identity. Why because the great british government is bowing down and kissing arses in fear of upsetting non british residents. Yeah a truly GREAT Britain. And look at the history of the so called Great Country........some of it is shocking ...and as for the links ....well maybe your a fantasist that doesnt like being told the truth ......Get down to Specsavers they got a 2-4-1 deal on rose tinted glasses. :whistling: Proud to be British ..................................................dont make me laugh. why dont you shut your foul gob.you live in ireland why the fuk do you care,or is it the case of hate on the brits whether your talking shit or not. thats the gratitude we get for trying to help your economy out. tut tut My economy...im scottish ya tool...living in ireland.....truth hurts there too huh!!!! oh right,get it now. hope you fukn stay there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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