what happens when you film the british police

[blan89 159]

correct me if im wrong ,but crashing a red light ha s always been a crime. yes there are daft laws,but as i said there is a time you should stand up for your rights.however this wasnt it. ffs the cop asked him his name and if he had id on him,for breaking a road law.he also asked in a civil way.all he got for his trouble was a arrogant prick quoting laws at him. rather pay the fixed penalty than be draggged off to a manky cell for hours spoiling my day and have the cops taking an interest in me. but like you said its our choice how we react. i like the quiet life personally.keep myself under thier radar at all costs.

i understand wanting to stay under the radar,just give it the 'yes,sir.no,sir.sorry sir' then be left alone.

 

but that's not going to work for long imo,like has been said we're very heavily observed,it's going to get worse and with the way things are going with the E.U,things will get very bad.

 

just out of curiosity and to let me try and work out your way of thinking. what exactly do you think is gonna happen. there are just as many daft laws protecting our rights are there are abusing them. prob more than the latter actually.

things are too open to abuse,if things can be abused imo eventually they will be.

 

I can't think of any ways that our rights to privacy and liberty is being restored or maintained.

 

the human rights act for example does nothing for them,it in fact restricts us further,and makes it illegal for you to in anyway discriminate against anyone for any reason.

does that not seem like it could easily be abused to you?

 

why are laws like this being put in place?

[PlasticJock 539]

Scothunter, for example a lot of people blame the police for not getting a grip of the riots over the summer.

Was it their fault, or was it the government who wrapped them in so many acts etc that they couldn't move for fear of getting raped afterwards?

I'm qualified to work as a first responder for the NHS. When I did my qualification i was told 3 things - 1) If I didn't do everything exactly as I'd been taught, I could be charged. If you were having a heart attack I couldn't even advise you to take aspirin ffs.

2) If I don't have your consent, I can't treat you, even if you're in a state of delerium.

3) Despite the above, I now have a legal obligation to help anyone in a medical emergency, or I could be charged. Really? Do I really need to be told to help someone?

 

The reason that people don't bother to help anyone in any situation anymore is because of these BS rules.

The police will happily take you to court for not wearing a seatbelt, but no one has the balls to use real force in a serious riot when lives were at stake, and tbh, I don't blame them.

[scothunter 12,609]

the riots imo was mismangd ed,caught off guard the use of facebook to organise it,and being told by a higher authority not to go in heavy handed in fear of turning it into a full scale battle with the cops. yea i heard in other countrys being the good samirtan can turn bad if you inenvertily cause someones death. been in that position myself,having a young lassie die in my arms. not somethint i done wrong i might add.quite the opposite in fact.cause i hadnt a f*****g clue as to what do. you would need to be one callous cold fish to not stop for someone in fear of being prosecuted for what you did or didnt do.

[scothunter 12,609]

excuse my grammar btw using a games consul to type this and its shit lol

[PlasticJock 539]

No worries I'm using an iPhone it's a pain in the arse!

That's my point - no one in command told them to do their job and protect people, but to stand back and do nothing. Simply because any injuries caused would be on their heads. Because of various acts that are supposed to protect us.

I've been in riots, and I can tell you now that a couple of baton rounds and decent coordination on the ground would have stopped it in a few hours, simple as that.

I was on the piss in Edinburgh a couple of years ago when I was still in the army with another guy and 2 birds, walking towards a club. Saw an old guy unconscious with blood coming from his mouth. People looked up the street, saw him, and carried on walking. The birds said ''let's go''. My mate said ''f**k it mate''.

Well I told them to do one and called an ambulance etc, turned out he was pissed and deaf! Still don't know whether he got cracked or just fell over, but it amazed me that even a guy who I knew and been on tour with didn't give a toss, not to mention the general public.

 

PS. When we got in the club 'my' bird said ''I feel like I've done something good today''

I said what do you mean?

She stood there sh*tting herself not wanting to get involved, yet managed to create something in her tiny mind that she was comfortable with...

Selective memory lol

Edited January 10, 2012 by PlasticJock

[rascal_2005 79]

So he cycles 300 yards down the road skips another red lightand BANG!!! Gets smashed to pieces in the middle of the road!

 

Soon be screaming out for that same coppers help wont he?!?!?

 

I drive in central london and these cycleist can be murder!!! They apper from nowere, skip lights and hang on to vans etc. and yet as a motorist we will get a bollocking for skipping a light etc.

Not only is he putting his life in danger but also other road users!!!

 

Ok, learn the law so you dont have to have your pants pulled down by the law, but the copper was only looking out for his safelty. If i recived a £60 fine i would think very hard about doing the same thing twice.

 

Blokes a twat end of!

 

John