how many agree or disagree with controlled selection on your lurchers

[bird 9,872]

So if you don't kill a dog that dosnt make the grade, then it's the anti in you..... What a load of shite some people spout on here.

you know f*****g well what i mean, if you get a dog that you want to kill foxes and when the going gets tough and the dog starts sounding like a hound eg barking its fecking head off n old ging gets away time after time do you keep it as a pet or do you get rid or are you guilty of passing it on telling lies about it instead of giving it an OBE n thats nothing to do with the new years honours list

you could always remove its bark box while its awake .

they aint f*ckin machines, they are just dogs (skin,bone,blood) if they dont do what you want ,you (owe) to the dog to get it a good pet home. Any dog will quit if you push it hard enough what ever the quarry.

[Flick75 32]

this is a silly topic just because a dog does not make

the grade to for example (take fox) it might make the

grade for another person for rabbits or ferreting

if giving the chance.

it is very unusual that a lurcher wont be good at

some type of hunting if giving a real chance by

a real dog man or woman

I agree.

We had a Lurcher bitch who came from a long line of fox dogs, but when it came to the crunch she couldn't handle it....absolutely lost the plot, pee'd herself, ran off, everything.

My husband decided to let her focus on rabbits, which she loves...she's a brilliant rabbiter...she's a day dog....she tackles any cover and gives 100% all the time. He says she's the best rabbiting dog he's ever had.

She's Bedlington/Whippet/Grey. Her Dam was Bedlington/Strong Whippet and her Sire was Bedlington/Grey first cross. Thirteen years old now and still going strong.

[tommy9 13]

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear.....BUT a huge percentage of lurcher lads can't be arsed to out the effort in and if a problem occurs.............get rid......dog needs time..............get rid..............dog didn't look right last night.......get rid.......i'd love to know how many good dogs have been passed along the lurcher merry go round and wasted and ruined living miserable lives because they didn't get a decent crack of the whip and entered correctly?

Your spot on mate.

[Stratton 0]

Totally spot on Simoman.

Some people shouldn't own a goldfish, never mind a dog.

[tia.kins 56]

Whover came up with the term "make the grade" where lurchers are concerned should have been shot.

 

Very easy to be the hard man.... But it takes a bit of effort to get the goods out of a dog.

 

Too much of this get rid attitude for my liking on this web site, seems to be a common trend FFS.

 

If you don't think your dog is not good enough for the Lurcher gene pool, then don't breed from it. If you wont keep the fecker, then get it spayed/nads off and find it a good home.......if you can do these basic cos your too tight or evil minded, then you really aren't fit to keep animals.

 

Christ knows why any one would want to admit to doing this sort of stuff on a public forum, it really is narrow minded, but then again, that might be a common fault for many a modern day can't make the grade Lurcherman.

 

Seems to me there are shite dogs out there cos folk have miss conceptions about what the grade is from one day to another, mate dogs too f*****g easily rather than seek a pup already in existence or simply don't give young dogs a proper go.

 

Feel sorry for some dogs I really do, they never stand a chance.

 

 

[robwelsh 354]

i know a few boys who do this "il shoot my dog if it doesnt do it "etc attitude, and when it comes down to it, they havent got the minerals, its not that i have or havent, its the fact that i wouldnt. its a load of bollocks! utter f****n bollocks..i hope she does come on, and i got a funny feelings shes going to be a cracking bitch, but she hasnt caught atall yet, due to lack of time out with her atm, but most the lads i know would and i know they would of passed her on to another dick, or "shoot it" as they like to make out..but i dont want to rush her..anyway back on subject, i wouldnt give to fucks if she never caught, shed still be with me, as shes a great dog,

[D.C. 34]

would like to hear your opinions on the process and who believes that dogs that dont make the grade should be sent to the clouds so that only the best should reproduce just like days of old, its also a way of stopping the puppy farming and how many of you would have the swingers to let your beloved pet go if it was sh1t EG send it on the journey

 

:no:

[hairyface 211]

if a dog doesnt make the grade its easier to put to sleep or get areal good pet home , if it can be done

the problem is dear whin, people have no idea what the grade means in reality, some think its all to do with taking teeth,horn others 100 rabbits a night others retrieving to hand. the reality is its owners who dont make the grade, we all know lads who change dogs more times in a season than they do their pants because THEY DONT MAKE THE GRADE. load of bollocks, the lurcher game is that varried that not all dogs will suite each individual hunting requirements again this can be put down to the owner making a bad choice in choosing the cross he has for the requirements he wanted,the owner unable to train,enter correctly also contributes to not making the grade. so in theory would be better to cull the owners rather than the dogs.

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear.....BUT a huge percentage of lurcher lads can't be arsed to out the effort in and if a problem occurs.............get rid......dog needs time..............get rid..............dog didn't look right last night.......get rid.......i'd love to know how many good dogs have been passed along the lurcher merry go round and wasted and ruined living miserable lives because they didn't get a decent crack of the whip and entered correctly?

 

 

im with you 2

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

i dont mean any offense on the thread just wanted to see how people feel about the subject and im no dog butcher i like dogs too much. in my mind if a dog didnt come up to the job i required it for then id hve to say id rather see it put to sleep rathr than it change homes week in week out on gumtree or done deal etc etc its crueller on the dog. co it happens a lot over here passing shit about. but thanks for replying :thumbs:

[samstorm 34]

Which "days of old" were they, when only the best were bred ?

 

Cheers.

yes when only the good that work pass on the genetics

 

I must have missed them days ! As people have been breeding shite for as long as I can recall

 

Cheers.

if this was done years ago we wouldnt still have shit knocking about now. at the end of the day even if you breed 2 100percent workers theres nothing to say that from the produced litter every whelp will be another 100 percent worker. not every thing goes to plan. if every dog was pts that was 100 percent then how would you know what your line needs. say you have a bullx that just hasnt got the stamina for hares? would you just pts? no the dog does every other bit of graft you want but cant keep on terms with a hare so you put something else in. a bit of greyhound a dash of saluki. no dog is ever going to be 100 percent for every man. if they were there would be flock all left coz every man and his mother would be out with there 100 percent dogs filling the freezer coz nothing can escape the jaws of the beast. its never gonna happen never has never will.

[whin 463]

if you never grade a dog well youll never own a good dog and if you never bred or keep a type youll find it very hard to grade them ,you can only go by the parents grand parents hence there would be no good dogs and they can only be graded by decent running dog men thats were the fault lies at times ,always will bad bred dogs and worse owners ,not just lurchers , no thought when breding or knowledge ,if you dont grade dogs wethere your own or mates etc then youll never get better thtas for sure

[whin 463]

i like that one chalky several decades methusalm seventy years my ass lol

[paulus 26]

if you never grade a dog well youll never own a good dog and if you never bred or keep a type youll find it very hard to grade them ,you can only go by the parents grand parents hence there would be no good dogs and they can only be graded by decent running dog men thats were the fault lies at times ,always will bad bred dogs and worse owners ,not just lurchers , no thought when breding or knowledge ,if you dont grade dogs wethere your own or mates etc then youll never get better thtas for sure

your right there but nowadays alot of dog men, me included tend to keep ourselves to ourselves our own little bubble if you like, so any gradeing is done via past and presant dogs, im due to have a pup this year i know the faults the sire has (by faults i mean things i want to change rather than actual faults) and have decided to put him over his fathers litter sister to pull the line back in as i outcrossed to produce him.

[whin 463]

• a bubbles no good as it blinds you to see others work , i make a piont of seing a few dogs over a season work and no what ones i dont want and ones that are very decent and so far its worked over the last twenty years hence mates one coursing comps ive kept a good stamp of a dog etc and manged to keep it going under diverse conditions ,at times
  

[paulus 26]

• a bubbles no good as it blinds you to see others work , i make a piont of seing a few dogs over a season work and no what ones i dont want and ones that are very decent and so far its worked over the last twenty years hence mates one coursing comps ive kept a good stamp of a dog etc and manged to keep it going under diverse conditions ,at times
  

 

i do get to see a few others run but do limit the amount i see, me and a mate have this line, i keep dogs he keeps bitches so it works out ok, as i said i out crossed last time to introduce fresh blood as the line has been heavly inbread for a long while. the outcross worked as i got the physical makeup i was looking for unfortunatly i also lost a bit of the old makeup aswell hence the cross back to the origanal line this year, theres pics on here. i very rarely leave this area as people who have been here will tell you.i believe lurcher to lurcher is best however the litter spread is the only drawback