SalukiBULLJP 27 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 As said all are different the 1 i had was fine indoors but as soon as he was hunting he found it hard not to tear the quarry up, he was 1st X bull grey so think he took on more bull at times So you think that's why people say 1/4 is enough bull As said all are different the 1 i had was fine indoors but as soon as he was hunting he found it hard not to tear the quarry up, he was 1st X bull grey so think he took on more bull at times So you think that's why people say 1/4 is enough bull Personally if i had another bull X would deffo just have 1/4 bull thats my opinion every1s diff n so is every1s dog !/4 is a perfect dog to start with i agree....like jim bowen once said.."everybody likes a bit of bully " mint dogs.....magic with kids and other dogs as long as yer bring em up with them early....they jusy blend in with the family....great temperament Quote Link to post
Bootsha 1,306 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 You get out what you put in, brought up properly with manners taught and know where they fit in into YOUR pack, and they will be a pleasure to own and work, start taking short cuts with a bull cross as a pup and your going to get you balls kicked when they get older.period. B 3 Quote Link to post
F#CK THE BAN 17 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 I have a 3/8 5/8, he is now 4 years old and still as mad as a pup. He's great with people and other dogs but that's how I trained him My only problem with the dog is is over excitement when on the lamp real game keen to go pulling on the lead. This is the drive I guess. Secondly he's a moaning b*****d if let in the motor he will winge n squeak is this common of The bull trait I've been told previous it is ?? Or is my dog just a wimp I have a 3/8 5/8, he is now 4 years old and still as mad as a pup. He's great with people and other dogs but that's how I trained him My only problem with the dog is is over excitement when on the lamp real game keen to go pulling on the lead. This is the drive I guess. Secondly he's a moaning b*****d if let in the motor he will winge n squeak is this common of The bull trait I've been told previous it is ?? Or is my dog just a wimp Mine ust to be exacly the same pulling on the lead & hopping on his back legs when he saw his target. Quote Link to post
cammyerl1 28 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 It dosnt matter what dog you have pedigree, crosses or heinz 57 varietys, its temperment is down to how they are raised and sociolised simple as that Quote Link to post
L8SPORTS 19 Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) The reason I asked this is that if you look at the 2 breeds involved Greyhound ( track well bred ) APBT game bred when I say that I mean that a proper dog that you no the blood and history of not some petbull that got bred to a similar dog And you don't no passed the parents ! They both have laid back attitudes they both have near perfect conformation to do the job in hand There loyal good with kids and both breeds arnt classed as guard dogs althow some APBT are very good at that But most of all they both have amazing prey drives and tenacity and that's what I think you would definitely keep in a x I think all the Orther traits mentioned above could be lost some were in the breeding but I bet all of them had that prey drive. Is a first X a tough dog dose it have better feet tougher skin than the greyhound or have use had ones that still had the problems that come with a pure grey ? And with our going in to detail dose it bother you what bull blood you use or is it any dog you like the look of & with that said a good dog is we're you find it I no that much ? I heard from a respected member on here that the dogs in the 80s were the best bull xs I think that's because they were all proper dogs then before the ban mainly Reid dogs which in my opinion would explain why. Sorry to go on I just Would love to no what use find in the x & thanks for all comments left I've learned alot more Edited January 6, 2012 by L8SPORTS Quote Link to post
bird 9,944 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Thanks lads Do u find them to be a guardy dog when on the yard? most ive seen all were friendly with people, the temp of this x is very good most love kids. We had a old type staff bitch in the 60s, she was 18 in 45lb more like a pit of today. She never barked if anybody came to the house, but if anybody did come in she didnt know, she would stand rock solid and stare , and feck me that would put you off, and with her strenght as well, not guard dog but dont think i would like to have tested her.! 1 Quote Link to post
Bootsha 1,306 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 In my opinion when the ban came in on all the dangerous dogs, the big downside to that was that instead of the bull breeds being kept by (mostly) reputable dog men that bred for a purpose, didn't tolerate "man biters" or things with an iffy temperament towards humans etc as they obviously had to be handled when at the work they were initially bred for. Whether people agree to what they were initially bred for is down to personnall choice. That only created a gap for the chav brigade and crack head arsholes to get a foothold, who would put any dog to any bitch regardless of temperament, conformity and mental stabillity, then dish the said litter of headfucked pups out to the rest of their headfucked mates who probably had a crackhead woman living with them who in turn had 8 kids by eight different fathers, who in turn had friends with similar bred pups,12 months on, "hey man, can i stick my 'ard looking bull on to yours ' cos it looks the part innit", and so the tale goes on, very unfortunately. The biggest enemy long term any breed of dog will have is man, and the influence man can have on a breed of dog can go one of two ways, either (when in the right hands) to strive to improve the breed and its working qualities by judicial breeding and, when needs be, selective culling, as unpleasant as it may seem it is sometimes a neccesity, or by ( when falling in the wrong hands - see chapter and rant about the chavs above - ) that will, in time, remove all goot working traits and qualities from the breed and create things only fit to be shot and put into a f****n incinerator. I have said it before, a well bred, well socialised, well mannered bull cross will grace any kennel and be a pleasure to work with, one that is missing one or more of the above will be a f*****g liabillity from day one. Yes they can be headstrong, and they wouldn't be the same without that quality, but when you channel that mental / physical strength and tenacity to the job you want them for, they take some beating. Again, the above essay is only my humble opinion, for what its worth. Regards B 5 Quote Link to post
GrCh 856 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 my bullx gets on with any dog she meets but as a pup if a dog reacted aggressive to her she would hide behind either me or my staff but now she's older she'll have a pop at owt (if it acts aggressive to her) Quote Link to post
Guest joball Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Why all the questions just get one and find out for yourself if your that interested nothing beats persanol experience after all. Quote Link to post
L8SPORTS 19 Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Why all the questions just get one and find out for yourself if your that interested nothing beats persanol experience after all. We're discussing the traits of 2 dogs & what you get when they are put together I'm after knowledge from experience hunters cause as you no nothing beats experience But I think there would be a big diffrence in the quality of the bull x if both sides of the breeding was stable and well bred. Bootsha you have a good point bit harsh with the crack head shouts haha but I see what your saying and manee dogs are put to sleep in the APBT world they are not ment to be aggressive towards us and people who no the breed and have worked with them no how dangerous that can be. How many people look for quality on both sides of a 1 st X breeding ? Quote Link to post
jeppi26 1,855 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 My half x is really good when out lamping you can walk him to heal (that's if I am on my own) but when with others he's on a slip and pulls to be in the lead don't like been at the back lol and at home he's the softest dog ever he's 8 years old know and he's like a puppy all the time soft as a brush IMO any dog could be the same if the time and effort gets put into them at a young age. 1 Quote Link to post
Guest joball Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Why you so interested, why all the questions? Are you planning on getting one? do you own running dogs? What do you want to know that already hasnt been said? Have you ever worked a dog to its full potential? Quote Link to post
ianh 83 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 i have to say my lad is coming up to 2 and a half now and just recently i have had to watch him with other dogs, he doesnt tend to start a fight but if one is developing he certainly isnt going to back down. until recently he would of legged it or not been bothered thinkin the other dog just wanted to play. im not sure if this is down to where i live now, we rarely see other dogs on walks now where as before i was walking him through a park most days and he'd see plenty other dogs. lamping on his own is a real pleasure will walk off slip after couple of runs, well behaved quiet. but with my mates dog it can get a bit different, very competitive and if we have been out a while and he hasnt had a slip but we slip the other dog he can really be a handful, once he even tried to bite my arm so id drop the slip, soon nipped that little trick in the bud though. but as said before great with kids and people, but i still wouldnt trust him or any dog alone with kids Quote Link to post
GrCh 856 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 wasan't there a few known man biters that were still used for breeding ch.chinaman? I might be wrong I usally am. Quote Link to post
PhilProp 51 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Mine is great with kids, dogs n ppl. Soft as a brush. Never showed any aggresion to any other dog n ive even had dog try bite him n go for him but he wont retaliate. Whitch i like Quote Link to post
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