the big chief 3,099 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 hi lads and lases whats ya views on true 1/2 x bull x gh eg speed stamina turning i have never owned a bull x be fore and was thinking of geting one so would like to hear ya views and opinions on them picks as well would be grate thanks G ye was slating bull xs as i well remember nar ye wanting one lol an ye am back lol lol if you ant got no info ot dont bother just curiouse never slated the breed Quote Link to post
HALTY LAD 92 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Good bull cross CAN turn, and they have more drive, more determination, more jaw than any other cross going. Now dont get me wrong I keep and work other types of lurcher, as there are benefits to be had from different strains. Dont knock them, they have their place and will no doubt keep it with those that need that special something. Ive seen them take all quarry day and night, I mean all quarry, from rats to boar and red deer. No other dog will give that much to its game than the bull terrier your right dogs can turn,,,,but i know some heavy well built dogs cant turn,,,,,,,it all depends on the speed they reach and height dont post on here if ya dont know,,,,,ive seen the old fashion bully types cant and some can,,,but ive seen many not turn and whack straight into tree or fence,,,,uve answered ur own post it comes down to determination,,,,yet a similar dog can fall in that trap themselfs,,and be half a ton lighter and built and be as skinny as a ss whippet lol Excuse me, but Ive seen enough over my 65 years with dogs to give a valid opinion matey! And belive me when I say, not all BIG dogs run daft, some have sense with their speed. I have dogs now over 85 lbs in weight and they can turn enough to stay on the quarrys backside. Breed blindness is a curse matey, just because you have not seen any worthy of note means nothing. I wouldnt slate your wee whippets, they would sprint the socks off any of my lurchers, but I will tell ye straight, they aint going to floor the meat that a big dog can, and if your trying to say big dogs cant catch bunnies, well, I fart in your general direction 65 years my fecking arse blah blah blah Watch yer tongue ye old barsterd, Im deadly with my walking stick, and dont think you will out run my new electric chair! Yes Im 65 Quote Link to post
old timer123 367 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 hi lads and lases whats ya views on true 1/2 x bull x gh eg speed stamina turning i have never owned a bull x be fore and was thinking of geting one so would like to hear ya views and opinions on them picks as well would be grate thanks G ye was slating bull xs as i well remember nar ye wanting one lol an ye am back lol lol if you ant got no info ot dont bother just curiouse never slated the breed you wanner talk bullxs mate look no further pal ive owned some of the best as you know well Quote Link to post
old timer123 367 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Good bull cross CAN turn, and they have more drive, more determination, more jaw than any other cross going. Now dont get me wrong I keep and work other types of lurcher, as there are benefits to be had from different strains. Dont knock them, they have their place and will no doubt keep it with those that need that special something. Ive seen them take all quarry day and night, I mean all quarry, from rats to boar and red deer. No other dog will give that much to its game than the bull terrier your right dogs can turn,,,,but i know some heavy well built dogs cant turn,,,,,,,it all depends on the speed they reach and height dont post on here if ya dont know,,,,,ive seen the old fashion bully types cant and some can,,,but ive seen many not turn and whack straight into tree or fence,,,,uve answered ur own post it comes down to determination,,,,yet a similar dog can fall in that trap themselfs,,and be half a ton lighter and built and be as skinny as a ss whippet lol Excuse me, but Ive seen enough over my 65 years with dogs to give a valid opinion matey! And belive me when I say, not all BIG dogs run daft, some have sense with their speed. I have dogs now over 85 lbs in weight and they can turn enough to stay on the quarrys backside. Breed blindness is a curse matey, just because you have not seen any worthy of note means nothing. I wouldnt slate your wee whippets, they would sprint the socks off any of my lurchers, but I will tell ye straight, they aint going to floor the meat that a big dog can, and if your trying to say big dogs cant catch bunnies, well, I fart in your general direction 65 years my fecking arse blah blah blah Watch yer tongue ye old barsterd, Im deadly with my walking stick, and dont think you will out run my new electric chair! Yes Im 65 funny lol some reason a dont beleive ya lol Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 right get the good points and bad point across as tha nows never owned one Quote Link to post
old timer123 367 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 one good point is killing ability lol two drive to catch loadsa tackle lol three harder to jack ,,,, but an this is a big but they gotter be out of the right stuff an beleive me the greyhound is just as important as the bull.... me personally i dont think theres a proper pure bull in this country to breed from mate so ye would have to settle for the right mongrelly bull cross am afraid to say....... Quote Link to post
HALTY LAD 92 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Good bull cross CAN turn, and they have more drive, more determination, more jaw than any other cross going. Now dont get me wrong I keep and work other types of lurcher, as there are benefits to be had from different strains. Dont knock them, they have their place and will no doubt keep it with those that need that special something. Ive seen them take all quarry day and night, I mean all quarry, from rats to boar and red deer. No other dog will give that much to its game than the bull terrier your right dogs can turn,,,,but i know some heavy well built dogs cant turn,,,,,,,it all depends on the speed they reach and height dont post on here if ya dont know,,,,,ive seen the old fashion bully types cant and some can,,,but ive seen many not turn and whack straight into tree or fence,,,,uve answered ur own post it comes down to determination,,,,yet a similar dog can fall in that trap themselfs,,and be half a ton lighter and built and be as skinny as a ss whippet lol Excuse me, but Ive seen enough over my 65 years with dogs to give a valid opinion matey! And belive me when I say, not all BIG dogs run daft, some have sense with their speed. I have dogs now over 85 lbs in weight and they can turn enough to stay on the quarrys backside. Breed blindness is a curse matey, just because you have not seen any worthy of note means nothing. I wouldnt slate your wee whippets, they would sprint the socks off any of my lurchers, but I will tell ye straight, they aint going to floor the meat that a big dog can, and if your trying to say big dogs cant catch bunnies, well, I fart in your general direction 65 years my fecking arse blah blah blah Watch yer tongue ye old barsterd, Im deadly with my walking stick, and dont think you will out run my new electric chair! Yes Im 65 funny lol some reason a dont beleive ya lol Oh well, dont. Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 My brothers got an American bulldog and he's got more drive and intensity than any bulldog I've seen put to a greyhound in 10 years, finding a bulldog of good quality is as rare as rocking horse shit. The lurchers off these american bulldogs are good, they appear to be quicker than the bull x Quote Link to post
old timer123 367 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 My brothers got an American bulldog and he's got more drive and intensity than any bulldog I've seen put to a greyhound in 10 years, finding a bulldog of good quality is as rare as rocking horse shit. The lurchers off these american bulldogs are good, they appear to be quicker than the bull x seen american bulldog crosses mate there jacking poo mate 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 My brothers got an American bulldog and he's got more drive and intensity than any bulldog I've seen put to a greyhound in 10 years, finding a bulldog of good quality is as rare as rocking horse shit. The lurchers off these american bulldogs are good, they appear to be quicker than the bull x seen american bulldog crosses mate there jacking poo mate I've seen bull x screaming like a banshee when toe to toe with a fox, your point being? Quote Link to post
HALTY LAD 92 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) My brothers got an American bulldog and he's got more drive and intensity than any bulldog I've seen put to a greyhound in 10 years, finding a bulldog of good quality is as rare as rocking horse shit. The lurchers off these american bulldogs are good, they appear to be quicker than the bull x Got to disagree. based on my experiences of the breed. Ive seen good bulldogs on pigs in florida and Oklahoma, fair catch dogs mate, Ive only seen two Am Bull crosses over here in the UK, both in England, and both were no way as efficient and clinical as a bull cross, one was a white bitch, which jacked later that season. When I saw it it did do its job, fair play but it was a bit floppy cock in its methods. Just based on my personal opinion of the breed in general, they make a good general hunting dog, but for hard work they are shadowed by bull cross. There have been several imports to the UK, I know as the chap I hunted with in Oklahoma has sent several here, and they are about as good as you can get. If you want a toned down bull cross, fine, but not a killing machine for serious graft. Edited January 6, 2012 by HALTY LAD 2 Quote Link to post
old timer123 367 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 My brothers got an American bulldog and he's got more drive and intensity than any bulldog I've seen put to a greyhound in 10 years, finding a bulldog of good quality is as rare as rocking horse shit. The lurchers off these american bulldogs are good, they appear to be quicker than the bull x seen american bulldog crosses mate there jacking poo mate I've seen bull x screaming like a banshee when toe to toe with a fox, your point being? my point being american bulldog greyhounds are jacking rubbish as are a lot of general bull crosses didnt say the bull cross was anything less as with any cross ye have to do ye home work an buy from right stuff an to me an american bulldog aint the right stuff if you know diffrent then youve seen better then me pal Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 In full agreement with you Halty Lad, I owned a fine looking first cross dog, sadly thats all he was, a fine lookin dog! Seen others go too and never seen anything that made me think that they could come near a good bull cross... Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Most bulldogs over here are fat barrels and even more lurchers are bred from them. My mates litter all were useful animals. My bros dogs intensity and drive is amazing for such a big dog, puts many to shame. The American bulldog over here is a pretty recent craze and true working relatives of dogs over the states will be much nearer generation wise than the working bulldogs that came over here in the 80s. Gameness is so hard to find and it is easily lost. Offcourse if you can find a genuine bulldog to cross to than that is the dog to have Edited January 6, 2012 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post
old timer123 367 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Most bulldogs over here a fat barrels and even more lurchers are bred from then. My mates litter all were useful animals. My bros dogs intensity and drive is amazing for such a big dog, puts many to shame. The American bulldog over here is a pretty recent craze and true working relatives of dogs over the states will be much nearer generation wise than the working bulldogs that came over here in the 80s. Gameness is so hard to find and it is easily lost. Offcourse if you can find a genuine bulldog to cross to than that is the dog to have good come back post lol Quote Link to post
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