pikeypaul 11 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 Scothunter you are just giving fuel for the anti's posting stupid comments like that,may i suggest you keep those thoughts to yourself and not post them on an open forum. THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE????. I have just listened to the local news and apparently the guy has suffered from depression in the past and has threatened to harm himself,police were called and attended his house but still allowed him to have six guns??. Now the local MP wants a debate in the commons to tighten the gun laws. By the way he,s another taxi driver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fenton88 6 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 Was it Shot guns?, On the radio it was saying he had a FAC and 6 guns. I agree this is somthing we all don't need, but what a horrible thing to happen to a family. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 yea your right,i should have wrote pre ban of course Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 Maybe they should stop handing out FAC's like parking tickets. . . . . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SportingShooter 0 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 I said the same thing after the Derrick Bird incident last year. No need for tighter laws, they can't get much tighter. But there needs to be more information sharing between medical practices and the police when it comes to license holders and to me, if I were the police and someone told me they had depression the first thing to go from that house would be their guns! Its just common sense, not laws and rules. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratsmasher 36 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 if they do anything they should have a full reform of the licensing system, not tighten the laws, just to simplify the system so that it is consistant between all the counties - at the moment if the laws were to tighten they would become excessive in some counties and not really have much effect in others. At least if the system was the same across the country then if the laws did tighten then the changes would be constructive because the politions might actually be able to understand what they are talking about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 Maybe they should stop handing out FAC's like parking tickets. . . . . Too true some of the people local to me who have taken up shooting and have been granted sg and fac beggars believe [bANNED TEXT] you know some of their past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,748 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 ok the guy had guns to hand and he used them , if he hadnt have had guns to hand and he had a mind to kill folk he probebly would have used other methods ,or maybe even aquired an illigal gun .he could have used a kicken knife , do they need to be licenced aswell !!!!.sad all th same for the victims . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,977 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 I said the same thing after the Derrick Bird incident last year. No need for tighter laws, they can't get much tighter. But there needs to be more information sharing between medical practices and the police when it comes to license holders and to me, if I were the police and someone told me they had depression the first thing to go from that house would be their guns! Its just common sense, not laws and rules. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richie10 345 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 With people losing their jobs, things becoming more expensive, people will become depressed or alcoholics. There have been more and more incidents like these. Instead of dealing with the root causes they will look to tighten up on guns. If we go back to a Labour government they will look to tighten down even further. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simonrees 45 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 The laws relating to Firearms in this country are archaic. just about anyone with a fairly good police record can obtain a rifle based on a 5 minute interview with a "rushed of his feet" FEO. Lets face it you need a days training to use a power tool in most companies these days yet almost anyone can obtain a firearm. I think the time will come when all applicants will need to complete a minimum of a 3 day safety and assessment course, so that a person can be better judged and their general attitude towards guns can be assessed. Probably some sort of Physiological profiling along with Annual mental health reports from a GP. I'm not saying it will solve all the problems but Thats they way I can see things going in the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simonrees 45 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 Im not against Guns but ffs why didnt the police take away his guns in 2008 as stated. Before anyone gets a gun licence, they should be stringent in depth checks going back to adolecence. Any misderminors and NO licence imo. Police should liase with Family Doctors , again going back to adolecence anything untoward at all showing up in their medical History, No licence and revokeing of licence. FAC's should be even more stringent and some type of accreditation course should have to be passed and Total proof of adiquate permission needed before a licence is granted. Licences are handed out willy nilly, plenty nit wits i know have em. I did a few daft things when I was about 14 -15 one of them was classed as a Firearms offence....Discharging an air pistol in a public place! in the 70s everyone had air rifles and we all shot them on the waste ground or down the park. That shouldn't necessarily rule people out in the future, I'm a totally different person now and have undergone many years of military training in the use of Firearms. As has been said what is needed is a common sense approach. Sadly common sense approaches will no doubt cost a lot more than the £50.00 it currently costs to obtain an FAC. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graham4877 1,181 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 pondering away thinking what they are gonna do now???? if the news is right the man had went a bit nuts some time a go and the old bill let him keep the guns????? remember pre 1963 anyone could just own a shot gun , gov shit its self and brings in the law for a sgc the no the country is a powder keg waiting to go bang , so best get them guns in eh" RIP to the poor people hope they went out like light ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest long-tail Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 a mr taylor,ex copper guest on radio 2 today stated, its more difficult to get a mini cab licence than it is a shotgun license,and you can do far more damage with a shotgun than you can a car,his words Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bunnybasher69 56 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 a mr taylor,ex copper guest on radio 2 today stated, its more difficult to get a mini cab licence than it is a shotgun license,and you can do far more damage with a shotgun than you can a car,his words I think he needs to look at the death toll from cars each year in comparison to guns of any type. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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