bloody raging

[northern terrierwork 74]

electric collers are effective and i myself have used them in the past but the best way is the natural way put time in to the dog atb lad..

[Cleanspade 3,324]

i love reading these threads. you get a right giggle. my old dog ozzy has turned his head once or twice. he is the most ignorant pig headed dog ive ever seen or owned. he only toe's the line if he knows he absolutely has to. the first time he was just over a year. and although there was no real harm done. he was shown the errors of his ways. took away from hunting and put back to basics. sit recall etc. once he realised i was the boss again it was back out and stock brakeing was re learned from scratch. and some harsh words.

 

the second time. he came away sharp after similar harsh words. this seems to have done the trick as it has never happened since. allthough i do catch him looking in the direction of sheep now and then. and thats when i whisper in his ear. the same harsh words. piece of piss really. ...................TOUCH WOOD........ .

 

PS. molly get a grip

[stewie 3,387]

Had dogs for 35 yrs but still got a sheep worrier lol back to basics i think, forget all hunting and just walk it round sheep as many times as you can keeping it on a lead then let it off with a muzzle on and keep going and going untill you get there which you will if you want to! If you Shoot the dog, then get out of dogs as your obviously a failure with them and deserve them. Ps just my opinion on a matter that really winds me up i hate seeing posts like these when its so f****n simple to stop it happening in the first place!!!!

[stewie 3,387]

DONT Deserve them i meant!

[dennned 172]

DONT Deserve them i meant!

 

Had dogs for 35 yrs but still got a sheep worrier lol ---- it's not 35 , lol it's a young dog , but i'm more than certain i will sort this problem very soon

[DogMagic 461]

den, i thought those pups of yours were over a year old they should have been stock broken by 8 months, had same problem early on wi ma bitch electric collar on for next 6 months used it twice problem solved, i now take the dogs wi me if i see a sheep stuck in fence or on its back and make them sit and stay until dealt with. hope you had good new year mate and all the best for 2012 atb cammy

 

cammy , to be fair , dog (was broken)or so i thought , this field never had sheep in it for months , it's a very uneven field( no excuse) an when we were in it the last time , there was bigger quarry there , near to the wood , so dog just took off , (yes my fault ever had him on a lead) obviously remembered where he'd got his first kill, again not an excuse for him , but the wee b*****d should know better, i'll solve it i'm sure , or heaven beckons for him

 

Look im sorry if you took my comments as insults. They werent meant to be as such. BUT you have to understand that comments such as the above (although maybe in jest) can be a bit offputting. Im more than happy to give you jim greenwoods number if you want? He helped me stop my lot killing sheep.

[dennned 172]

den, i thought those pups of yours were over a year old they should have been stock broken by 8 months, had same problem early on wi ma bitch electric collar on for next 6 months used it twice problem solved, i now take the dogs wi me if i see a sheep stuck in fence or on its back and make them sit and stay until dealt with. hope you had good new year mate and all the best for 2012 atb cammy

 

cammy , to be fair , dog (was broken)or so i thought , this field never had sheep in it for months , it's a very uneven field( no excuse) an when we were in it the last time , there was bigger quarry there , near to the wood , so dog just took off , (yes my fault ever had him on a lead) obviously remembered where he'd got his first kill, again not an excuse for him , but the wee b*****d should know better, i'll solve it i'm sure , or heaven beckons for him

 

Look im sorry if you took my comments as insults. They werent meant to be as such. BUT you have to understand that comments such as the above (although maybe in jest) can be a bit offputting. Im more than happy to give you jim greenwoods number if you want? He helped me stop my lot killing sheep.

 

thanks for the offer , if i dont get him sorted , i'll take you up on the offer thanks

[Moll. 1,770]

i love reading these threads. you get a right giggle. my old dog ozzy has turned his head once or twice. he is the most ignorant pig headed dog ive ever seen or owned. he only toe's the line if he knows he absolutely has to. the first time he was just over a year. and although there was no real harm done. he was shown the errors of his ways. took away from hunting and put back to basics. sit recall etc. once he realised i was the boss again it was back out and stock brakeing was re learned from scratch. and some harsh words.

 

the second time. he came away sharp after similar harsh words. this seems to have done the trick as it has never happened since. allthough i do catch him looking in the direction of sheep now and then. and thats when i whisper in his ear. the same harsh words. piece of piss really. ...................TOUCH WOOD........ .

 

PS. molly get a grip

 

[Born Hunter 17,818]

i love reading these threads. you get a right giggle. my old dog ozzy has turned his head once or twice. he is the most ignorant pig headed dog ive ever seen or owned. he only toe's the line if he knows he absolutely has to. the first time he was just over a year. and although there was no real harm done. he was shown the errors of his ways. took away from hunting and put back to basics. sit recall etc. once he realised i was the boss again it was back out and stock brakeing was re learned from scratch. and some harsh words.

 

the second time. he came away sharp after similar harsh words. this seems to have done the trick as it has never happened since. allthough i do catch him looking in the direction of sheep now and then. and thats when i whisper in his ear. the same harsh words. piece of piss really. ...................TOUCH WOOD........ .

 

PS. molly get a grip

 

Sorry to steal the thread for a moment Denned.

 

Cleanspade, just wondering if you have much experience with wheaton lurchers (I believe Ozzy is a half cross?). Reason i ask is my bitch has 1/4 wheaton and she was a stubborn pig headed arse to stock break. She just gave them the 'eye' and no matter how much I shouted and thrashed her (when neccessary) she would persist to do so untill about 2 when me and her started to see eye to eye. Now shes pretty much fine and as soon as she sees sheep trots over to me wagging her tail. I walk her though them as regular as possible to keep it up. I would'nt have wheaton blood again personally, heard too many people comment about them being stubborn buggers.

 

Edited to add; my bitch has never had a sheep/lamb as I never let it go that far, I never even let her off the lead in a field of sheep untill she stopped giving them the eye. Just incase anyone thought I let her go about nailing sheep untill the age of 2! lol.

Edited January 2, 2012 by Born Hunter

[nat 8]

Iv seen the method of putting the dog that's had hold of a sheep in a pen with a older ewe with lambs at foot before not nice to watch and only needs to be on the pen for a few mins. But it works on a dog that's had a sheep before but I think the dog should be stock Brocken as a pup before it gets a chance to attack sheep.

 

http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa397/Natalie_Alexander/IMG_0013.png

 

 

[nat 8]

The dog in the picture tries to mother lambs at any opportuinty

[Ideation 8,216]

A lot of it is situation dependant.

 

My young dog was happily to the point where he could walk / ferret / run around and near sheep with no dramas.

 

Then one day we were mooching through a woodland, with thick cover and a scraggy black little sheep burst out of a thick patch and went hammering away through the ferns.

 

We'd literally 5 mins ago been in a field full of sheep, playing with him and he ignored them.

 

However the dog locked onto the movement and ran and pulled the sheep. When i caught up with him he had it pinned to the ground, but was a bit confused as to what he was going to do then.

 

Needless to say i slapped him silly and now he is back to not locking at them.

[lietome 138]

so did i im full to the brimm lol i think all dogs need to refresher but one dog at a time ive always found best , i think half on here are retired sheep rustlers lol

dont worry , tomorrow off out with dog again , this time elec collar on, i will get it sorted .if not , heaven beckons

 

wtf do you need an elec collar for, Heaven beckons , load of bollocks

because in the right hands they are brilliant things you can punnish it in the act not when it comes back give it full power if it chases good luck

[Cleanspade 3,324]

ive only the same experience as yourself. . namely the rearing and entering and then working one dog. i can relate to your post . but can also say that this stuborn streak is part of the dogs makeup and is what makes them special. it has been a difficult job at times. and may have taken a few years off my life. its best to take the positives out of it. these dogs only have black or white there are no shades of grey. give them an inch as a young dog and they will take a mile. and try to hold on to it for the rest of there lives

i would have another but i would do it very differently from an early age. they can be hard work. but they are worth it

 

this is meant for born hunter. i meant to quote your post.

Edited January 2, 2012 by Cleanspade

[Giro 2,648]

Collar had remarkable effect on my dog...

 

I had it out from a pup and done loads with it, it turned over night and no amount of harsh words could of stopped it.

 

I tired few methods over a period of months before I parted with my cash.

 

Collar 3 zaps cured, perfect with them now.

 

Would highly recommend a decent collar used in the correct manner.

Edited January 2, 2012 by Giro