Guns & ammo in public?

[ChickenFarmer 0]

Hi,

 

If I drop in at a pub (for a non-alcoholic drink) or at McDonalds to/from shooting should I leave the shotgun & ammo in the car?

 

Or can I take the gun (in a slip case) into the restaurant/pub?

 

Or can I can my ammo belt in?

 

(I like to keep the ammo & gun separated)

 

Also, what's the situation if I were to accidentally be wearing the ammo belt when say going into a petrol station?

 

Note: One of my London customers visited me where I live deep in the county.

On the way he had lunch at a rural pub - and suddenly a load of shooters came in and threw guns and ammo in a heap on a table. He said that he was terrified ... in London a SWAT time arrives if you can spell 'gun' letalone have one.

[The one 8,481]

Think your better leaving it locked in your car boot , i reckon you take a gun in a sleeve to McDonald's there would be a uproar

[Malt 379]

Note: One of my London customers visited me where I live deep in the county.

On the way he had lunch at a rural pub - and suddenly a load of shooters came in and threw guns and ammo in a heap on a table.

 

I'm not surprised mate, most country folk have an inherent dislike of cockneys!

[The Duncan 802]

Think your better leaving it locked in your car boot , i reckon you take a gun in a sleeve to McDonald's there would be a uproar

Agree on all counts

[zx10mike 137]

if your not on a long jurney and you could have gone through the drive through or took the gun home the police would lynch tou if anything gets taken.only if you have to on a long jurney and then take the bolt and ammo wiyh you.uless you don't have an fac and your on the way to do a bank job then do what you like happy new year all

[The Duncan 802]

"Or can I take the gun into the restaurant/pub?"

 

Great question. Sounds fabulous

[The Seeker 3,048]

If going into a pub ask to speak to the manager explain what you have in your gun slip and do they have any objections to you bringing it into the pub, explain it will be kept in the slip throughout i have never had a problemwith it. As for McDonalds I can't comment I only buy coffee and that's through the drive in.

 

[SportingShooter 0]

I think a common sense approach may just be the answer TBH.

 

Car in sight in the car park, gun locked in the boot, ammunition hidden somewhere in the back on the seats or under them or even hidden by say a coat. Take whatever is practical with you like a bolt from a rifle or the forend from a shotgun.

 

I would never even consider taking one into a McDonalds or any other restaurant other than my local country pub which we use before we go shooting anyway.

[matt_hooks 188]

Recommended practice is to leave the gun locked in the boot. Ammunition too. Take a part that renders the weapon useless if possible (bolt/fore end) and your FAC/SGC with you.

 

If you are on the way home and have to stop then it's acceptable. However, if you have passed home, or could have popped home, dropped the guns off and then come out, then it's frowned upon.

 

The HO "Firearms Security Handbook" (link) says:-

 

 

PART 7: FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION IN TRANSIT

 

Carriage by Road – Section 1 & 2 Firearms & Ammunition

 

Private Individuals

 

7.1 When carrying firearms etc in a vehicle, the following steps are considered to accord with

the duty to ensure the safe custody of the items.

 

Vehicles Left Unattended

 

7.2 Whenever possible, the vehicle should not be left unattended for long periods.

 

7.3 Vehicles containing firearms and left unattended for any length of time should ideally have

an immobiliser and/or alarm fitted.

 

7.4 Where possible, they should be parked in a position that would frustrate attempts to enter the

vehicle unlawfully. (eg with the boot close to a wall).

 

7.5 Where possible, they should be parked where they can be overlooked.

 

7.6 For preference, the firearms should be stored in the locked boot or other secured load

carrying area of the vehicle. They should be out of sight from passers-by.

 

7.7 In the case of estates, hatchbacks and similar vehicles, the certificate holder should ensure

that:

 

a) where fitted, the lid or cover of the load carrying area should be in place, or the

firearms are covered and concealed to prevent their identification;

 

if the vehicle is to be left unattended for any length of time, the firearm and

ammunition should not be stored together;

 

c) where the boot or load carrying area is the most practical place, ammunition should be

secured in an appropriate container ideally, but not necessarily, secured to the vehicle;

 

d) where it is practical, the bolt magazine or other operating part should be separated

from the firearm and either carried on the person, or kept in a locked container, ideally

secured to the vehicle, or concealed elsewhere.

[Callum. 2]

Do what SS said.

Also i'm not sure if it is of interest but someone where I went beating had like some sort of cabinet in the back to keep his shooting stuff - drawers for guns and separate for ammo etc;

it was lockable so maybe it would be just for more peace of mind as it is added security having a locked boot AND storage.Going into a place like McDonalds with a shotgun or rifle really isn't advisable haha.

ATB

Callum.

[TWOTWOTHREE 152]

Hi

Better safe than have no certificates due to what is right or wrong,I prefer to just call home and put it away and then I know there is no issue if it is left un attended in the car and stolen,in theory just nipping into the paper shop like many do for a packet of fags or something on the way shooting,my self included, even that gives some thieving git chance to steal ya car.in a nut shell bud it's better to be sure than in the shit,

Happy new year

Atb 223

 

[PLEDGEY 496]

Guns in the truck, go out shooting, then go home. If i want to go anywhere i do it without any fire arms on board. I don't even like it if I'm out shooting and i can see people watching me. To Country type your out shooting pests, to a tourist, staying in a caravan near by, your a nutter dressed in camouflage that could kill them and their children. it's bad enough when they scream and grab their children when they see my German Shepherd off his lead!.

[Nik_B 3,790]

My FAO told me to take the fore end off the shotgun and take it in with me. You can leave the gun in the car, obviously make sure it's out of sight and park so the boot is up against a wall.

 

I have to say though, to take your fore-end off you are going to have to pull you gun out of it's slip to do so....in theory it might be sensible but in practice surely if someone else at the petrol pump sees a hind of a shotgun stock in your hands you could end up with an MP5 pointed at your head!

 

I'd just keep everything out of sight and locked up. That is all the law asks for from my understanding. If I visit my mum on the way home from shooting clays I'd take the gun in the house with me so it doesn't get pinched.