fat man 4,741 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Whether the quarry is released or not is down to the farmer/keeper if they are about and if not then its down to the individual that has dug it.I personally will let all run as i think and have said before on here that the lads with the rifle's,gun packs,snaring,road kills,poisioning,will take there toll on a population in an area so why should i be part of that,at the end of the day i would be killing my own sport.In saying that if a fox is doing damage,eg.hens,lambs,game birds,well then it has to be done and also if the terrier finishes the job below ground then fair enough,jmho. 1 Quote Link to post
dev 226 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 The reason why a lot of us irish lads, release our quarry is because we hunt to work our terriers! NOT to kill. Yes some people run them for lurchers but some of us only work terriers so its not about killing.its about the dog working underground and the dig. 10 Quote Link to post
steveio 39 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 no boys i aint scared of foxes have handeld hundreds my bullx will catch on the bolt but some times it is just easery to let him get the fox out when thae are pushed up tight have hadit where once you have shot the begger it is tight to pull out my dog will stay withem no matter what undre groud but some times like i said it is easer to let the bullx do the job (Some lads I dig with wouldnt even touch dead quarry with a gloved hand!) then if thay cant toucheit ded or alive then thay shouldent be digging why do you irish digg it out just to reales its a job to me and i doant under stand letting it go once the terrier has done its job why lett it go its beond me like no affence to the irish lads like handled 100's ???? alive or dead?..im 45 years old,had my 1st WORKING terrier when i was 11yrs old and i dont think iiv even handled that many live fox's Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 I agree that's why the standard of working terriers over here is higher as they are dug to on a regular basis on quarry that is very well educated. It's a better test and it's been proven. 8 Quote Link to post
pernod 466 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 I wouldn't say release !!!! More like lifted from the dig carried to a good sized field and been giving a sporting chance then let a lurcher go. Most times they are caught and dispatched. Sometimes the do get away. Lurchers are bred for running and stamina and killing power. I've been out and seen lads throw foxs down at a lurchers feet, everyone's diffferent but if your into lurchers in a big way to know what you have in your yard, that's the real deal. As I said earlier it doesn't or wouldnt suit anyone doing it for a job. Which is fair enough. Again just my opinion:- a fox beat out of cover/woods and coursed with terriers is sport. A fox dug from an earth, taken to a field, released, then coursed by a lurcher(even given a bit of law) is not a side of the sport i would ever have been involved in. Again this is only my opinion, if others see it as fine, then fair enough, each to their own. Yours in sport Pernod 1 Quote Link to post
steveio 39 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 no boys i aint scared of foxes have handeld hundreds my bullx will catch on the bolt but some times it is just easery to let him get the fox out when thae are pushed up tight have hadit where once you have shot the begger it is tight to pull out my dog will stay withem no matter what undre groud but some times like i said it is easer to let the bullx do the job (Some lads I dig with wouldnt even touch dead quarry with a gloved hand!) then if thay cant toucheit ded or alive then thay shouldent be digging why do you irish digg it out just to reales its a job to me and i doant under stand letting it go once the terrier has done its job why lett it go its beond me like no affence to the irish lads like handled 100's ???? alive or dead?..im 45 years old,had my 1st WORKING terrier when i was 11yrs old and i dont think iiv even handled that many live fox's and having huntesd with hounds since i was 11 i cnt remember 1 occasion ever havinh to use a hound to draw a fox that is ''pushed up tight'' Quote Link to post
dymented 2,220 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Its been a long time since Ive owned a terrier but i think i did my fair share off digging Can one off the Experts please explain to me after a dig how to you get to grips with it ?? with out a dog 2 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 It's not an Irish thing letting game go, IMO it's a sign of a good terrierman, if the fox needs to die because it's killing lambs, chickens etc. then fair enough it hasto be treated as a pest. But if you're out with your terriers for a dig or two and the foxes in that area aren't causing a problem then what's the point in killing them? A terrierman goes out and digs to the dogs for the sport of working the dog not for the killing of the fox. If i never killed another fox again it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. On the draw dog side it's not my cup of tea but that's just my opinion. 5 Quote Link to post
dublin dezzy 1,023 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 On the draw dog side it's not my cup of tea but that's just my opinion. part & parcel of the game,wouldnt be without a draw dog,not because i am afraid to handle the quarry because there are terriers bred to do this job,great to see,best part of the digging Quote Link to post
pernod 466 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Its been a long time since Ive owned a terrier but i think i did my fair share off digging Can one off the Experts please explain to me after a dig how to you get to grips with it ?? with out a dog Hi mate, i'm far from an expert, but i would suggest a wider hole. Pernod 1 Quote Link to post
dublin dezzy 1,023 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Its been a long time since Ive owned a terrier but i think i did my fair share off digging Can one off the Experts please explain to me after a dig how to you get to grips with it ?? with out a dog Hi mate, i'm far from an expert, but i would suggest a wider hole. Pernod perfect hole for a terrier with a decent handle on it Quote Link to post
mushray 246 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Its been a long time since Ive owned a terrier but i think i did my fair share off digging Can one off the Experts please explain to me after a dig how to you get to grips with it ?? with out a dog sure if you knock away the top your in on him' his in a pocket aint he, but i no were your coming from with the photo, i use a tongs myself cheep to run and easy to carry......Mush Quote Link to post
foxing machine 144 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 no boys i aint scared of foxes have handeld hundreds my bullx will catch on the bolt but some times it is just easery to let him get the fox out when thae are pushed up tight have hadit where once you have shot the begger it is tight to pull out my dog will stay withem no matter what undre groud but some times like i said it is easer to let the bullx do the job (Some lads I dig with wouldnt even touch dead quarry with a gloved hand!) then if thay cant toucheit ded or alive then thay shouldent be digging why do you irish digg it out just to reales its a job to me and i doant under stand letting it go once the terrier has done its job why lett it go its beond me like no affence to the irish lads like i dosent matter wat eny one else thinks about using a draw dog. if your happy doing it that way mate then carry on doing it that way i say. atb fm 1 Quote Link to post
go2ground 152 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) I say if you have a suitable dog for drawing then go for it...I personaly just started one this season he is a year and a half old 1/4 apbt 1/4 airedale and 1/2 mt. cur...he should save a little wear and tear on my terriers... Edited to add a picture of him... Edited December 31, 2011 by go2ground 3 Quote Link to post
danny300 2,240 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Its been a long time since Ive owned a terrier but i think i did my fair share off digging Can one off the Experts please explain to me after a dig how to you get to grips with it ?? with out a dog Hi mate, i'm far from an expert, but i would suggest a wider hole. Pernod that would be just perfect for my lurcher Quote Link to post
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