lurcherman01 16 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 i have all 3,rifle,shotguns, and my lurchers,if im out with the rifle my dogs come with me,if im rough shooting my dogs come with me,my dogs are not just used for lamping,ferreting,there used for retrieving ,flushing etc,but i do tend to be out with the dogs more than i am with guns.... 1 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,216 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Dogs first and foremost; BUT, I enjoy shooting, hunting, fishing, in fact ANY type of fieldsport, and wouldn't object to anyone following their chosen type of fieldsport !! Cheers. Quote Link to post
whippet 99 2,613 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I shoot shotguns and rifles. My dog is always with me. I guess that over the years I've taken equal amounts of foxes with dogs and rifles. I've shot loads more bunnies than I've ran, but I've run loads! I don't care how someone does their own fieldsport and support everyone who's out doing a bit, regardless of their chosen discipline. It's not about being sporting for me, I can be sporting with my rifle, shotgun and dog. Although a dog slipped onto a field with multiple targets in makes it's own mind up about which one to take and doesn't choose dependant on age, sex, etc. It's a lit easier for someone to get hold of a dog than a rifle and idiots will always be idiots no matter what tool they have to use. As someone else said, unity is the only way forward. a rifle is easier to use than a dog and secondly one rifle could do more damage in one night than any dog . fact. Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Dogs and camera only for me Quote Link to post
yeeharr 41 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 for a start i have shot guns as well as dogs. i use dogs to flush to guns sometimes when needed. killing range of 30 - 40 yds depending on type of quarry or birds etc. i have no issues with rifle men who need to do a job. as long as the job is done and client is happy. fair enough. i do have issues with people coming on bragging how many foxes they shot with a rifle this season. and how they call it sport is beyond me , i call sport a percentage of chance the quarry has of getting away and shooting game with rifles at night using night vision etc etc , shooting at far distances doesnt come to me as giving your quarry a sporting chance. dont get me wrong needs must in certain circumstances and there shouldnt be no suffering with the technology in the rifle world this modern day. i believe in conservation what gets away from the dogs will fight another day but what gets away from rifles? i dont want to argue on here this is just my believe. because the wrong people get hold of rifles and because its the lazy and easiest way of killing a wild animal they get trigger happy, not shooting to conserve nature but to exstinct there chosen coney. its an easy way of killing animals and can be destructive to a devastating exstent in areas of permission. i think after a while the riflemen get so board of hiding behind scopes and a trigger the next thing for them to get there kick is the numbers they get. and that they get greedy shooting unnecessary just to add to there tally instead of shooting to control numbers. when customers want jobs done you show them what you get but only a fool would wipe out there future. and i think with rifles its very easy to wipe out areas rather than controlling them. pre ban hunting with your local pack you know the areas that the rifle boys do as parts of country dont hold much, at least hunting with dogs the strong healthy quarry most often live . when looking through a scope at night you cant defy healthy coney at distances. look at the state the ban has left us in . if rifles were used moderately i wouldnt have a problem but sadly there not. i wish all hunters a good second half of the season especially the ones who get as much pleasure seeing there vermin escape This is what you originally posted, FACT!! You could right copy for LACS with that nonsense. At the very best you've not shot rifles. I agree with some of what you're saying bit the majority is invented sh1t! Quote Link to post
whippet 99 2,613 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) for a start i have shot guns as well as dogs. i use dogs to flush to guns sometimes when needed. killing range of 30 - 40 yds depending on type of quarry or birds etc. i have no issues with rifle men who need to do a job. as long as the job is done and client is happy. fair enough. i do have issues with people coming on bragging how many foxes they shot with a rifle this season. and how they call it sport is beyond me , i call sport a percentage of chance the quarry has of getting away and shooting game with rifles at night using night vision etc etc , shooting at far distances doesnt come to me as giving your quarry a sporting chance. dont get me wrong needs must in certain circumstances and there shouldnt be no suffering with the technology in the rifle world this modern day. i believe in conservation what gets away from the dogs will fight another day but what gets away from rifles? i dont want to argue on here this is just my believe. because the wrong people get hold of rifles and because its the lazy and easiest way of killing a wild animal they get trigger happy, not shooting to conserve nature but to exstinct there chosen coney. its an easy way of killing animals and can be destructive to a devastating exstent in areas of permission. i think after a while the riflemen get so board of hiding behind scopes and a trigger the next thing for them to get there kick is the numbers they get. and that they get greedy shooting unnecessary just to add to there tally instead of shooting to control numbers. when customers want jobs done you show them what you get but only a fool would wipe out there future. and i think with rifles its very easy to wipe out areas rather than controlling them. pre ban hunting with your local pack you know the areas that the rifle boys do as parts of country dont hold much, at least hunting with dogs the strong healthy quarry most often live . when looking through a scope at night you cant defy healthy coney at distances. look at the state the ban has left us in . if rifles were used moderately i wouldnt have a problem but sadly there not. i wish all hunters a good second half of the season especially the ones who get as much pleasure seeing there vermin escape This is what you originally posted, FACT!! You could right copy for LACS with that nonsense. At the very best you've not shot rifles. I agree with some of what you're saying bit the majority is invented sh1t! point out the bit you dont like , i can spell this out for you DOGS GIVE A SPORTING CHANCE , RIFLES HAVE TRIGGER HAPPY , LAZY , FAT PEOPLE BEHIND THEM AND GIVE THERE TARGET NO CHANCE OF ESCAPE AND THEN COME ON HERE AND BRAG THAT THEY HAVE SHOT THE BIG NUMBER GAME Edited December 28, 2011 by whippet 99 Quote Link to post
Roxyboi 64 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 A bloke near me shot 22 foxes in 1 weekend.......slaughter Quote Link to post
jeppi26 1,855 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Guns are for failed dog men hahahahaha 5 Quote Link to post
foxing machine 144 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I shoot shotguns and rifles. My dog is always with me. I guess that over the years I've taken equal amounts of foxes with dogs and rifles. I've shot loads more bunnies than I've ran, but I've run loads! I don't care how someone does their own fieldsport and support everyone who's out doing a bit, regardless of their chosen discipline. It's not about being sporting for me, I can be sporting with my rifle, shotgun and dog. Although a dog slipped onto a field with multiple targets in makes it's own mind up about which one to take and doesn't choose dependant on age, sex, etc. It's a lit easier for someone to get hold of a dog than a rifle and idiots will always be idiots no matter what tool they have to use. As someone else said, unity is the only way forward. a rifle is easier to use than a dog and secondly one rifle could do more damage in one night than any dog . fact. a bb gun could do more damage that a whippet in one night all day long lol Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Any dickhead can wipe fox's out with rifles takes skill with a dog to do it properly. Ps guns are for gays Your right.......isnt it a university degree or you have to be a rocket scientist to slip a lead.............. I enjoy both. Much rather work the dogs as i get more satisfaction from that. I use the gun to fill the freezer or knock over the odd fox that wanders to close to the rearing field. If the ban was lifted i'd love to get a running dog too as i have to go out with mates to see that side of things. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Dogs and camera only for me just got a camera and have started taking it out have to admit i quite enjoy it, my photo`s are rubbish like but ha ho dont know if i will ever swop the gun for it but never say never Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Guns are for failed dog men hahahahaha thats your book out the window :laugh: i think theres a difference between people mooching with a dog and a gun and the wholesale slaughter of fox`s with rifles but then again seen a post from a dog lad the other night saying he had done 17 foxs on someone elses ground with night vision does that not make him the same as the man driving around in the 4 x 4 blasting away? Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 always had both dogs and guns just tools for jobs dont' give a flying f**k what others do it's for them and their conscience to worry about. 2 Quote Link to post
blue staffy 145 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 i do both and enjoy both but have to admit the dogs are the 1st choice for me , rifles can injure foxes a dog either kills it or misses it 1 Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Dogs and camera only for me just got a camera and have started taking it out have to admit i quite enjoy it, my photo`s are rubbish like but ha ho dont know if i will ever swop the gun for it but never say never Never been a shooter, so a camera came easy for me, Quote Link to post
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