wabbit slayer 16 Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 Happy Christmas to everyone Im thinking of getting myself a 17 hmr either new or s/h, not 100% sure on what make but have been looking at CZ. Seems to be more choice around in the new and s/h market with CZ and I have never heard anyone slag them off. But what model do I go for 452, 453 etc?, varmint or american ? I want bolt action, wood stock not plastic and threaded to take a moderator. I've been told that the varmint (heavy barrel) is more accurate than the american but the down side is the they are a bit heavier so a sling is a must when your out and about. I like the look and feel of the 16" varmint but also whats the pro's and cons with the shorter barrel? is it they are just easier to point from a car? are they less or more accurate or are they just the same as a longer barrel? Oh and finnaly what about a scope seen some hmr scopes what are they like? or will I be ok with a quality scope somthing like 6-24x50 PA Well should be enough questions to see you through the new year, look forward to reading all the responses. Sorry about my spelling. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 Happy Christmas to everyone Im thinking of getting myself a 17 hmr either new or s/h, not 100% sure on what make but have been looking at CZ. Seems to be more choice around in the new and s/h market with CZ and I have never heard anyone slag them off. But what model do I go for 452, 453 etc?, varmint or american ? I want bolt action, wood stock not plastic and threaded to take a moderator. I've been told that the varmint (heavy barrel) is more accurate than the american but the down side is the they are a bit heavier so a sling is a must when your out and about. I like the look and feel of the 16" varmint but also whats the pro's and cons with the shorter barrel? is it they are just easier to point from a car? are they less or more accurate or are they just the same as a longer barrel? Oh and finnaly what about a scope seen some hmr scopes what are they like? or will I be ok with a quality scope somthing like 6-24x50 PA Well should be enough questions to see you through the new year, look forward to reading all the responses. Sorry about my spelling. short version cz 452 is rimfire 16 barrel is more manouvarable in a motor and accuracy is virtually the same if not the same, heavy barrel is ok if your fireing round after round in quick succesion and it will need cleaning before it gets that hot and as for scopes how bigs your wallet but you wont go fat wrong with a leopold or a copy even Quote Link to post
zx10mike 137 Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 if you can afford new do it then you can have the peice of mind knowing it has been shot in correctly and cleaned.if anschutz and weihrauch make a 14" i'm sure 16 will be great just as accurate maybe 100 fps slower wich you will never notice. Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 the 453 isn't a centrefire the 453 is the newer model of the 452. and comes with a set trigger Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 the 453 isn't a centrefire the 453 is the newer model of the 452. and comes with a set trigger your correct im confusing it with the 550 c/f Quote Link to post
stillair1 16 Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Don't forget to look at the new 455 thumbhole varmint version which has the straight barrel tube rather than a tapered barrel of the earlier 452/453 . To be honest there's not much weight difference between the 16 and 20" as the cz hmr is not exactly a heavy rifle. Don't forget a moderator in the set up too. Quote Link to post
bigadg 5 Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 ive got the 452 american 16 inch barrell its a tack driver you cant go wrong stu Quote Link to post
wabbit slayer 16 Posted December 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Yea I looked at the 455 thumb hole nice looking and feeling gun, Some of my decision will be made on how much I can find one for. anyone have an idea who is the cheapest dealer to get one from? Im in north humberside. Quote Link to post
mark a l 27 Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 hi . have you looked on gun trader? []=Rifle&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Bolt%20Action&Filter[Calibre][]=.17%20HMR&Filter[Make][]=CZ&Filter[Model][]=455&Filter[Model][]=455%20VARMINT&Filter[Model][]=455%20VARMINT%20%20THUMBHOLE&Filter[Model][]=455%20VARMINT%20LAMINATE%20THUMBHOLE&Filter[Model][]=455%20Varmint%20TH&Filter[Model][]=455%20Varmint%20Thumbhole&Filter[Model][]=455VARMINT%20%20TH%20LAMINATE"]http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/results.php?&Filter[NewType][]=Rifle&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Bolt%20Action&Filter[Calibre][]=.17%20HMR&Filter[Make][]=CZ&Filter[Model][]=455&Filter[Model][]=455%20VARMINT&Filter[Model][]=455%20VARMINT%20%20THUMBHOLE&Filter[Model][]=455%20VARMINT%20LAMINATE%20THUMBHOLE&Filter[Model][]=455%20Varmint%20TH&Filter[Model][]=455%20Varmint%20Thumbhole&Filter[Model][]=455VARMINT%20%20TH%20LAMINATE Quote Link to post
akton 15 Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 I can vouch for the cz 455 thumbhole have used one ,lovely gun and shoots clover groups time after time brilliant choice for the price Quote Link to post
sibaldib 6 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I've got the CZ 452 Style in 16". Brilliant for shooting from a vehicle and as already mentioned, an absolute tack driver. Sib Quote Link to post
moonlighter 1,164 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I use a Cz American with a leupold scope. I like this rifle a lot but I've never used another to compare it to. On looks alone the savage takes some beating but I've never used one. Quote Link to post
pipcock 21 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Happy Christmas to everyone Im thinking of getting myself a 17 hmr either new or s/h, not 100% sure on what make but have been looking at CZ. Seems to be more choice around in the new and s/h market with CZ and I have never heard anyone slag them off. But what model do I go for 452, 453 etc?, varmint or american ? I want bolt action, wood stock not plastic and threaded to take a moderator. I've been told that the varmint (heavy barrel) is more accurate than the american but the down side is the they are a bit heavier so a sling is a must when your out and about. I like the look and feel of the 16" varmint but also whats the pro's and cons with the shorter barrel? is it they are just easier to point from a car? are they less or more accurate or are they just the same as a longer barrel? Oh and finnaly what about a scope seen some hmr scopes what are they like? or will I be ok with a quality scope somthing like 6-24x50 PA Well should be enough questions to see you through the new year, look forward to reading all the responses. Sorry about my spelling. If you like the look and feel get one ,you wont regret it and as for accuracy if you can see the difference you should be shooting for olympic gold 1 Quote Link to post
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