miles 227 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 On 24/12/2011 at 00:36, Romany said: On 24/12/2011 at 00:29, chartpolski said: On 24/12/2011 at 00:16, Romany said: Will do And I can also remember the "Assasin", "Widdrington Train", and a few other dogs back in them old days ! They wern't racers, but boy, could they do a hare !! And there was a lad up your way who had "Johns Rocket" and my old mate "Big Sixer" who had "Tiger Bay" ! Two tremendous Scratch Dogs ! Cheers. Now we are talking dogs...The assassin was a lurcher, half brother to my old bitch Bes owned by Ron Murray, he was half deerhound/greyhound out of Dukes big Blue dog in Bedlington, and Watsons (from the paper shop in Bedlington) lurcher, thought to be a collie cross..the assassin was the best male lurcher to come out of Ashington, for hares deer and fox in the `s..the Widdrington train was over rated, but, a decent dog..seen them all, ran with most of the best lurchers around there at that time.. Inan was talking dog's, I know Deerhounds and their hybrids are your passion, but, if the assassin was all that,why did Alan run the saluki hybrids and have so much success with them? Quote Link to post
chartpolski 25,643 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 On 24/12/2011 at 19:26, miles said: On 24/12/2011 at 00:36, Romany said: On 24/12/2011 at 00:29, chartpolski said: On 24/12/2011 at 00:16, Romany said: Will do And I can also remember the "Assasin", "Widdrington Train", and a few other dogs back in them old days ! They wern't racers, but boy, could they do a hare !! And there was a lad up your way who had "Johns Rocket" and my old mate "Big Sixer" who had "Tiger Bay" ! Two tremendous Scratch Dogs ! Cheers. Now we are talking dogs...The assassin was a lurcher, half brother to my old bitch Bes owned by Ron Murray, he was half deerhound/greyhound out of Dukes big Blue dog in Bedlington, and Watsons (from the paper shop in Bedlington) lurcher, thought to be a collie cross..the assassin was the best male lurcher to come out of Ashington, for hares deer and fox in the `s..the Widdrington train was over rated, but, a decent dog..seen them all, ran with most of the best lurchers around there at that time.. Inan was talking dog's, I know Deerhounds and their hybrids are your passion, but, if the assassin was all that,why did Alan run the saluki hybrids and have so much success with them? Probably because we're talking about the 60's and 70's !! There wern't to many Salukis around then, but people, including Alan, moved with the times, and, of course, the Saluki X took over from what we had back then, and has proved itself as the supreme coursing dog ! But don't forget, we were killing hares long before the Saluki came along Cheers, and Merry Xmas !! 1 Quote Link to post
whip x grey 276 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) On 24/12/2011 at 17:32, sowhat said: On 24/12/2011 at 11:35, whip x grey said: is don ,,,,still kicking about geoff????,,,,i regonice the name,,,,unless iam thinking off another don name rings a bell,,,,althou i wouldnt have met him You may have heard of him Bob, he was well known on the coursing scene Skycat may know if he's still around. good luck if he,s still kicking about,,, iam thinking its maybe not the guy,,,,as the guy iam thinking off ,,,,went to the darkside and came into hardbloods,,,,and passed his knowlage on,,,,,,i dont want to say too much as chartpolski knows some off the top coursing men in the contry in hardblood,s hay day,,,,surcommed to the darkside lol lol lol Edited December 24, 2011 by whip x grey Quote Link to post
miles 227 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 Charti, thanks for the patronising answer, the question was to Bill, I (like many others) ran Deerhound cross in the 70's from Nuttals kennel in Clitheroe all round the Lancashire moors and Yorkshire dales and they caught plenty of hares and everything else, but like you say thing move on. To get back on topic there were dogs as good or better before, at the same time and since but not together in the same place, i was there and the second ( heavy going ) day sorted the wheat from the chaff Quote Link to post
chartpolski 25,643 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 On 24/12/2011 at 19:45, miles said: Charti, thanks for the patronising answer, the question was to Bill, I (like many others) ran Deerhound cross in the 70's from Nuttals kennel in Clitheroe all round the Lancashire moors and Yorkshire dales and they caught plenty of hares and everything else, but like you say thing move on. To get back on topic there were dogs as good or better before, at the same time and since but not together in the same place, i was there and the second ( heavy going ) day sorted the wheat from the chaff If you think my reply was patronising, I'm sorry for that, it wasn't meant to be. It was meant to be a straight answer, and I think it answered your question. Cheers. Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 All round lurchers are my passion, Alan like all the coursing lads from here travelled to the Fens to get the work suited to their dogs, the assassin was a one off, a dog of a lifetime in all round ability and Alan will be the first to tell you that, he was suited to the smaller paddock type fields of mid to north Northumberland and the borders..he was an all rounder, not a specialist hare courser..Alan got into the match scene, if I had, I would also have added a saluki cross to my kennels and kept what I had for up here..No one can question what the likes of Sankey, Harrigan, Common, Harry Burton and the rest of them did on the Fens, some of their dogs will go down in match dog history, but so will Ron Murrays dog 1 Quote Link to post
miles 227 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 No worries Richie All the best to you and yours 1 Quote Link to post
miles 227 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 Your right in all you say Bill, were i beg to differ is this myth that saluki lurchers are specialists, suited to and confined to the fens or other open spaces? Yes, of course, they excel at this particular task but a good one will take a hare anywhere any other breed or cross will. 2 Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 You are probably right matie..there are lots of myths about.. Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 hy inan the forley was out on its own as a coursing comp with all those great dogs running against each other on the same day .cant see it ever happening like that again but would love to be proved wrong and see it once again .t hope to see you on the big land before end of season have a great christmas you and he family all the best john . Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted December 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 On 25/12/2011 at 11:30, boyo said: hy inan the forley was out on its own as a coursing comp with all those great dogs running against each other on the same day .cant see it ever happening like that again but would love to be proved wrong and see it once again .t hope to see you on the big land before end of season have a great christmas you and he family all the best john . All the best to you and yours John ,hope we meet on the field before the season is out.Tony Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted December 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 On 24/12/2011 at 20:05, miles said: Your right in all you say Bill, were i beg to differ is this myth that saluki lurchers are specialists, suited to and confined to the fens or other open spaces? Yes, of course, they excel at this particular task but a good one will take a hare anywhere any other breed or cross will. Saluki crosses excel on big land, but can take hares anywhere .I know several that are not only top drawer on big land ,but first class lampers. Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted December 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 On 24/12/2011 at 19:45, miles said: Charti, thanks for the patronising answer, the question was to Bill, I (like many others) ran Deerhound cross in the 70's from Nuttals kennel in Clitheroe all round the Lancashire moors and Yorkshire dales and they caught plenty of hares and everything else, but like you say thing move on. To get back on topic there were dogs as good or better before, at the same time and since but not together in the same place, i was there and the second ( heavy going ) day sorted the wheat from the chaff Hello mate have a great Xmas and a terrific season. Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 (edited) On 25/12/2011 at 15:32, inan said: On 24/12/2011 at 20:05, miles said: Your right in all you say Bill, were i beg to differ is this myth that saluki lurchers are specialists, suited to and confined to the fens or other open spaces? Yes, of course, they excel at this particular task but a good one will take a hare anywhere any other breed or cross will. Saluki crosses excel on big land, but can take hares anywhere .I know several that are not only top drawer on big land ,but first class lampers. Edited December 25, 2011 by Romany Quote Link to post
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