gnasher16 30,395 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 If there is no skill in competitive cycling, does that also mean there is no skill in motorbike racing? Im sure theres plenty of skill in motorbike racing but i wouldnt really call that a pure sport either........exactly what is the skill to riding a bike anyway.....riding it fast for a long distance is impressive in itself but skillful Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 If there is no skill in competitive cycling, does that also mean there is no skill in motorbike racing? Im sure theres plenty of skill in motorbike racing but i wouldnt really call that a pure sport either........exactly what is the skill to riding a bike anyway.....riding it fast for a long distance is impressive in itself but skillful sport is a competitive activity, simple as that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,395 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 gnash you could say the same about track athletics,, its just running,, whatever distance, from 100 meters to marathon,,, or swimming.. i dont hold with that view,,, well done cavandish,, i didnt watch it , but how did mo farra do,,, and cook ??? Tomo running or swimming is not relying on hi tech equipment.......i accept cycling is a sport of sorts but not a pure sport. Theres plenty of things thats classed as sport that isnt strictly sport......... For me pure sport in its highest form requires every quality a competitor needs from skill to natural ability to fitness and endurance......id class footie,boxing,rugby,cricket,athletics as examples of pure sports....................cycling,motor racing,horse racing etc all as lesser sports.......then things like archery ....which although an olympic sport..........i dont know what that is,a hobby ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,395 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) [sport is a competitive activity, simple as that. Throwing a rolled up paper ball into a bin is a competetive activity if its against an opponent...............but its still not a sport. Edited December 23, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 gnash you could say the same about track athletics,, its just running,, whatever distance, from 100 meters to marathon,,, or swimming.. i dont hold with that view,,, well done cavandish,, i didnt watch it , but how did mo farra do,,, and cook ??? Tomo running or swimming is not relying on hi tech equipment.......i accept cycling is a sport of sorts but not a pure sport. Theres plenty of things thats classed as sport that isnt strictly sport......... For me pure sport in its highest form requires every quality a competitor needs from skill to natural ability to fitness and endurance......id class footie,boxing,rugby,cricket,athletics as examples of pure sports....................cycling,motor racing,horse racing etc all as lesser sports.......then things like archery ....which although an olympic sport..........i dont know what that is,a hobby ? how about syncronised swimming??? that's in the olympics and it's basically just fannying about in a pool! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,654 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 gnash you could say the same about track athletics,, its just running,, whatever distance, from 100 meters to marathon,,, or swimming.. i dont hold with that view,,, well done cavandish,, i didnt watch it , but how did mo farra do,,, and cook ??? Tomo running or swimming is not relying on hi tech equipment.......i accept cycling is a sport of sorts but not a pure sport. Theres plenty of things thats classed as sport that isnt strictly sport......... For me pure sport in its highest form requires every quality a competitor needs from skill to natural ability to fitness and endurance......id class footie,boxing,rugby,cricket,athletics as examples of pure sports....................cycling,motor racing,horse racing etc all as lesser sports.......then things like archery ....which although an olympic sport..........i dont know what that is,a hobby ? how can you think darts is a sport but not archery,,,very similar ?? what about skeet shooting gnash or target shooting,??? is it because of the equiptment??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 [sport is a competitive activity, simple as that. Throwing a rolled up paper ball into a bin is a competetive activity if its against an opponent...............but its still not a sport. now you're just being silly! just because you see certain types of sport as more of a challenge for the sportsman as they involved both skill and fitness is doesn't mean that a sport that only involves one of those factors isn't a sport. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 I think it's a matter of opinion as to what can be truly termed a sport, but this is the general definition of a sport: Sport is all forms of physical activity which, through casual or organised participation, aim to use, maintain or improve physical fitness and provide entertainment to participants. Sport may be competitive, where a winner or winners can be identified by objective means, and may require a degree of skill, especially at higher levels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 they cyclists are super fit,and there endurance levels are amazing in some of those races.take mountainering the ultimate test for the human body. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 I think it's a matter of opinion as to what can be truly termed a sport, but this is the general definition of a sport: Sport is all forms of physical activity which, through casual or organised participation, aim to use, maintain or improve physical fitness and provide entertainment to participants. Sport may be competitive, where a winner or winners can be identified by objective means, and may require a degree of skill, especially at higher levels. by that definition then, neither darts or archery are a sport?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 they cyclists are super fit,and there endurance levels are amazing in some of those races.take mountainering the ultimate test for the human body. I'll stick to my favourite sport I think...............fishing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,395 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 how can you think darts is a sport but not archery,,,very similar ?? what about skeet shooting gnash or target shooting,??? is it because of the equiptment??? Id say darts or archery is a lesser sport no way could they be regarded as sports in the pureness of footie/boxing/rugby etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,395 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 [now you're just being silly! just because you see certain types of sport as more of a challenge for the sportsman as they involved both skill and fitness is doesn't mean that a sport that only involves one of those factors isn't a sport. Well yes it was said somewhat tongue in cheek I look at the qualities a sportsman needs to be succesful......of which theres loads.....if a sport only needs 1 or 2 of them i fail to see how they can be classed as pure as a sport that needs them all.................basically cycling is something virtually any human being could become the best at with enough work put in......that theory doesnt apply to sports which require natural flair or ability.........darts requires no physical fitness but you couldnt suddenly decide one day your going to be the best at it without a huge amount of talent/skill you were more than likely born with................for that reason id class it more of a sport than cycling ........but i havent really thought it through so i might be wrong 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,654 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 [now you're just being silly! just because you see certain types of sport as more of a challenge for the sportsman as they involved both skill and fitness is doesn't mean that a sport that only involves one of those factors isn't a sport. Well yes it was said somewhat tongue in cheek I look at the qualities a sportsman needs to be succesful......of which theres loads.....if a sport only needs 1 or 2 of them i fail to see how they can be classed as pure as a sport that needs them all.................basically cycling is something virtually any human being could become the best at with enough work put in......that theory doesnt apply to sports which require natural flair or ability.........darts requires no physical fitness but you couldnt suddenly decide one day your going to be the best at it without a huge amount of talent/skill you were more than likely born with................for that reason id class it more of a sport than cycling ........but i havent really thought it through so i might be wrong i love the last sentance,, i think the skill side of these kinds of sport is down to timing , like when to aply pressure, on an apponent,,,,, i just find it dificult to understand how yoy differentuate between cycling and running,,,,, nearly evry competitors bike is the same,,, there will be one or two with difrent gear settings maybee,,,, although i dont know the rules on this?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 is mountainering a sport?lol i dont even know if it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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