lurchers and runing dogs

[Ideation 8,216]

Whats the fecking question?

 

Or is this just another excuse to say how 'the real deals don't need no internet, they have the best dogs, they do it all, and tor of dartmoored 365 hares, phessies, roe and samos before the rest of us even woke up this morn, on the big stubbles, with d.sleight yadda yadda"

[whin 463]

read it and if you dont want to ansewr not a problem

[whin 463]

nothing about my dogs read the question tor of dartmoor wasnt about when i saw my first hare caut , or beast

[Ideation 8,216]

I've read it and i still havnt a fecking clue what your asking!

 

It seems to say - years ago i needed / wanted / expected a dog that could take hare, rabbit, the odd fox, go ferreting and maybe bag some birds. Has this changed?

 

Well, there has been a ban, making two of those quarry illegal to hunt, so i'm sure that has an impact. But im also sure that ignoring that fact, most folk would like a dog that was capable of taking a range of quarry in a range of ways. Some however would accept a dog that cant do it all, but does enough to make them happy, and other cant accept such a dog, as they must have a dog that can do it all. Perhaps they are the 'real deal' we here so much about?

[skycat 6,174]

There's not many dogs which are good at all things: I've been very lucky to have had two dogs which did it all, and well, but I still get as much satisfaction from a good rake about with the pack, through thick cover where the outcome of the hunt is never certain: its the excitement factor of not knowing what will come out, and watching the different types of dogs working as a team.

 

Actually, the nose dogs are just following scent but the lurchers are working as a team with them LOL

[whin 463]

your still not reading it as it is , as younot talking of your needs pre ban etc al you go on about it me its fec all about me its about what people done before the ban and because of the ban less do take risks , nothing to do about me or did you not have dogs before the ban lurchers

[Bosun11 537]

not realy as a true hunting guy doesnt realy need it ,but i have bought some usefull things of it , not of here but fishing boats engines all sorts mate ,i got as much of the edrd mag before the ban as i do of here infact more to be truthful ,

 

I think you get more out of it than you keep telling us Whin.

 

Yep, EDRD is a cracking mag and before this site I was an avid buyer but on a site such as this you can read just as much good stuff, even if you have to trawl through some shite to get to it and, you don't have to wait a month or two for a reply either!

 

7,927 post you have made as I type this. Now to most thats a lot and though you always speak about getting out, the hours and posts spent on this site, tell a slightly different tale...

 

Now don't get me wrong Whin, I, like you and others, still get to spend a fair 'ol bit of time on here and still get out enough, like you I live where I can run stuff from my front door BUT I never knock the site, nor bellyache about it, it serves a purpose, my pleasure, thats it...

[whin 463]

prefer the old mag before the ban about the coursing ,deer hunting ,field trails , etc as di harcombe was a true moderator were the country mans weekly was more like this , the edrd has no email just put your story in last time i wrote was 2002 away out west ,sat and had a cup of tea with the man gave him treats , got a pup of him as he had a unplanned litt ,this is nothing as good as edrd was never in amonth of sundays , i could put amilion posts up doesnt mean im realy in tune with it , as anybody could , but he sifted through the shite and put alot of good stuff up back then ,

[Ideation 8,216]

your still not reading it as it is , as younot talking of your needs pre ban etc al you go on about it me its fec all about me its about what people done before the ban and because of the ban less do take risks , nothing to do about me or did you not have dogs before the ban lurchers

 

Mate, reading it as it is, is no fecking help to any man (or woman). No offence.

 

So what is the question - what was / is your needs for a dog???

[bird 10,013]

your still not reading it as it is , as younot talking of your needs pre ban etc al you go on about it me its fec all about me its about what people done before the ban and because of the ban less do take risks , nothing to do about me or did you not have dogs before the ban lurchers

 

Mate, reading it as it is, is no fecking help to any man (or woman). No offence.

 

So what is the question - what was / is your needs for a dog???

i think he might mean the dogs(lurchers) that we use today, as to what was yester year. Well to me the dogs ive had and what i was told was a lurcher, have been dogs of fair lump of collie in them to a running dog.And if read some of the poachers , they kept dogs that (wernt) to racey, but looked just collie - mongrels, so they didnt look like greyhounds that farmers or keepers would see. And there quarry was rabbits, deer, and (long net) the hares, so they (didnt) keep over fast running dogs. To days dogs are more of specialist dogs (hare,fox,) that were bred befor tha ban came in, and to be honest i like some of them, i have bull xgrey that could catch rabbits and other quarry if need be . Times change so you go forward you carnt go back .

[Good Man 196]

i allways wondered what lurcher folk did before the age of the lamp??

id say a lurcher had to be a good pot filler?

[Moll. 1,770]

I like my 'just incase' dogs. I dont give a rats arse if my dogs could do 4 fox, 7 roe in one night or not. I just liked to have the kind of dog where if an opportunity presented itself the dog could cope well. I do not think an 'allrounder' actually exists...well not if you believe what you read on the www

[chartpolski 25,413]

Well, I've had a fair few dogs over the last 45 years, some as "allrounders", some brought in for specialised jobs, but the two I have in my kennell just now, are not realy any different to the dogs I had back in the 70's. I still hunt the same game, day and night, using the same methods, although the lamps and batteries have improved a lot ! I've owned just about every "mainstream" cross or purebred, apart from Bull X, and I still get enjoyment out of the "game", weather its lamping, daywalking, ferreting or just mooching !

 

Cheers.

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Very interesting....

 

In my opinion,...taking everything into account,...(and I have been around a long while ),...the selectively bred lurchers of today, are a vast improvement on the old style jukels....

 

Romance and legend all deserve their rightful place in lurcher folklore,..but, ya gotta keep it real.

 

I am a rabbit hunter,..pure and simple,...(mostly simple,.. ) but, the dogs that I grew up with, did not have the advantages of the 21st Century, with all the knowledge and information that is on offer.... I feel that with every litter bred, we should endeavour to IMPROVE our stock and move forwards, never backwards.......

 

 

Best wishes to all lurchermen,..and lurcher women...

 

Regards, Chalkwarren...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

www.chalkwarren.co.uk

[chartpolski 25,413]

Chalky, as a devotee of Non-Ped Whippet Racing, I can see your point; they have improved tremendously over the years, and so, no doubt, have Lurchers. I may be looking back thru' Rose Tinted Spectacles, or maybe there was just more game, less rules about back then ! LOL ! My brother asked me how my old dog from the 60's would do now; I said he caught pleanty them, and I don't think the quarry has got any faster since !! LOL !! In the end, it still comes down to animal husbandry, .....a bad dog man can ruin a good dog !!

 

Cheers.