wise words or not

[dai dogs 1,404]

was talking to a older guy than myself about training hunting dogs ect.

he said that if you train a dog to hunt the dog will never give 100% as the dog is always thinking about how to please its owner.

he was talking about obidiance,retrieving, hand signals, ect, basically filling the dogs head full of.....

 

he went on to say ( in more detail than iv put it here) if you let a dog do it for itself ( if its got it in it ) with just the basic recall command it will always give 100% as its doing it to please itself.

 

what you opinions on this? cheers Dai.

[salclalin 240]

In my Opinion a Dog must have at Least the Basics.Retrieving/sitting /Staying/Jumping etc or the Dog is only Half the dog it Could be.Dogs are Pack animals and are Subservient to the Alpha Male(The Owner who should be the Alpha Male) So in my Opinion the dog doesn't do anything to please itself.Just my thought on the Subject.

[jf1970 328]

i would have thought, if you have a dog that hunts for itself and not you, then you will start to encounter all sorts of problems, recall and retrieve would go out the window for a start.

[shushycatcher 219]

my dogs are mainly for lamping and they seemed to know that when you turn the light off they come back! maybe ive just been lucky!

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

If a dog's got good natural hunting instinct I don't believe that a bit of gentle obedience training is ever going to block it. The only dogs I've seen which pay more attention to their owners than to the hunt have been heavily border collie influenced and maybe a little over forcefully trained. I suppose that's the kind of dog he was thinking about.

[jf1970 328]

my dogs are mainly for lamping and they seemed to know that when you turn the light off they come back! maybe ive just been lucky!

thats because they hunt for you.

[long dogs 580]

rekon it cause to many problems if you let it hunt for its self imo

[BLACKHEART 61]

the basic commands and building a strong bond-giving praise-seem to work for me-and i believe that the dog inturn will give 100%.atb

[Ideation 8,216]

Aye, my dog hunts for himself and he's an ignorant black c**t.

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

Aye, my dog hunts for himself and he's an ignorant black c**t.

:D :D

But you love him anyway, don't you.

[Ideation 8,216]

Aye, my dog hunts for himself and he's an ignorant black c**t.

:D :D

But you love him anyway, don't you.

 

Yup

[bullmastiff 615]

Training isn't just to get the dog to do more for you, it's about teaching the dog that you can help them hunt too...

Hunting together, not as individuals will always be more effective

 

Same as things like "Castrating will cure aggression problems" Some ideas are best left in the past

[pixiepatch 0]

my bitch is a twat if she doesnt catch what she is after , she just keeps running about not listening to my call ,but if she gets a rabbit she will stop and sit and allow me to take it off her ! cant quite understand it . maybe its the greyhound in the bull !!!