lanesra 3,994 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Watched a documentary about Nigel Benn and Gerald Mclelland's fight in the 90s , Mclelland was left with long term damage to his brain and needs 24 hr care , really interesting too watch and showed how tough Benn was considering how fancied Mclelland was, we had some very good boxers in that era , Mclelland apparently threw a labrador in with his APT to give the dog some "blood" which if true is sick though his family denied this , Benn is now a born again christain livin in spain about to move to Australia . Apparently Mcllellen was a bit of an arse....didnt deserve what he got of course but wasnt the nicest of characters he was one of these soppy street style dogfighters with a couple of fat pooches he thought was tough. Benn never did go to Australia that interview was about 4 years ago he lives in Mallorca.....one of the greatest displays of gameness you could ever see from 2 fighters that night. oh right , i thought it was upto date , he is definetly a changed man , a mate off mine witnessed his aggression in a London club 1 night (luckily not towards him) yes they both gave there all that night and Benn collapsed heading back to the changing room at the end . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 yeah they done a test off some tried up blood on McClellans boot 100% proof Its only 100 % proof that somebody close to Mcllellen that night was taking steroids......was it matched to Benn,no..............have a look at some of the lumps in and around Mcllellens corner and its highly likely to have come from his own camp..... I'm no expert mate,but i don't think you can accurately test for steroids by swabbing some dried up fleck of blood on a shoe! not to mention there's nothing to say it was even from benn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,425 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) I'm no expert mate,but i don't think you can accurately test for steroids by swabbing some dried up fleck of blood on a shoe! not to mention there's nothing to say it was even from benn. Blood testing is far more likely to detect a banned substance than urine testing is....its also far harder to beat through masking than a urine test is.....wada ( anti doping something or other ) list around 500 substances,precursors and masking agents...... their blood screening is judged in parts per billion which if i remember right the equivalent is half a teaspoon of liquid in an olympic size swimming pool....................so yes they could find steroids in dried up blood off a shoe Edited December 16, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I'm no expert mate,but i don't think you can accurately test for steroids by swabbing some dried up fleck of blood on a shoe! not to mention there's nothing to say it was even from benn. Blood testing is far more likely to detect a banned substance than urine testing is....its also far harder to beat through masking than a urine test is.....wada ( anti doping something or other ) list around 500 substances,precursors and masking agents...... their blood screening is judged in parts per billion which if i remember right the equivalent is half a teaspoon of liquid in an olympic size swimming pool....................so yes they could find steroids in dried up blood off a shoe would the blood not of degraded? That's assuming this drop was completely uncontaminated on the way to the hospital and in the ring,which it almost certainly was at some point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,425 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Obviously in normal random testing blood is taken in the normal manner.........but you said yourself they tested blood off the shoe..........if they had seriously thought it was Benns blood it wouldnt of been difficult to cross examine.........some stories tell themself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,425 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) , Edited December 16, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
old timer123 367 Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 , gnash 1 question for you do you think that benn was on the juice ?????? i know what i think Quote Link to post Share on other sites
torchey 1,328 Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 yeah they done a test off some tried up blood on McClellans boot 100% proof Its only 100 % proof that somebody close to Mcllellen that night was taking steroids......was it matched to Benn,no..............have a look at some of the lumps in and around Mcllellens corner and its highly likely to have come from his own camp..... There was also a few people around benn that loved their steroids. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
old timer123 367 Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 benn collapsed as he knew he would be tested i m o an benn likes his juice if truths known Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,425 Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 gnash 1 question for you do you think that benn was on the juice ?????? i know what i think Absolutely not..........Nigel Benn was a true competitor who never feared losing a fight......he wanted the big fights and always wanted to test himself,he desperately wanted the Roy Jones fight even though he knew Jones was a far superior fighter.......this is not the attitude of a man who is willing to desperately cheat to win i believe Benn was a true sportsman.....................so he was friendly with a few well known lads into steroids so what......sometimes folk put 2 and 2 together and make 5 a lie dont become truth just because it keeps getting repeated. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
old timer123 367 Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 seen the documentary an benn couldnt deny that he had ever taken gear mate though he did deny he had taken juice when he matched now why would he not just say he hadnt ever taken juice ? at some point in his life hes taken juice ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,425 Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) seen the documentary an benn couldnt deny that he had ever taken gear mate though he did deny he had taken juice when he matched now why would he not just say he hadnt ever taken juice ? at some point in his life hes taken juice ? So whats the problem with what the man does away from boxing ?....nothing has ever been found in his system before during or after a fight what else is their to talk about......it sounds soft saying it in this day and age but from what ive known of Nigel Benn he is not a man who lies or cheats his way through life yes he has done some daft things away from sport but nobodies perfect and that dont make him guilty of something just because he doesnt want to tell lies. I dont think people realise just how many " banned substances " there are its not a simple case of banned substances = steroid cheat........too many cups of coffee,a few too many diet pills and thats it your a performance enhancing cheat......yet in reality every athlete in every sport tries to enhance their performance in one way or another its only if the person he competes against doesnt do the same does he actually gain any advantage Edited December 17, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
old timer123 367 Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 seen the documentary an benn couldnt deny that he had ever taken gear mate though he did deny he had taken juice when he matched now why would he not just say he hadnt ever taken juice ? at some point in his life hes taken juice ? So whats the problem with what the man does away from boxing ?....nothing has ever been found in his system before during or after a fight what else is their to talk about......it sounds soft saying it in this day and age but from what ive known of Nigel Benn he is not a man who lies or cheats his way through life yes he has done some daft things away from sport but nobodies perfect and that dont make him guilty of something just because he doesnt want to tell lies. I dont think people realise just how many " banned substances " there are its not a simple case of banned substances = steroid cheat........too many cups of coffee,a few too many diet pills and thats it your a performance enhancing cheat......yet in reality every athlete in every sport tries to enhance their performance in one way or another its only if the person he competes against doesnt do the same does he actually gain any advantage you said enough for me mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jsmith 103 Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Top class warriors,we won't see their likes in the ring again.I lived around the corner from Benn in the 's just as he was turning pro. Wouldn't say I knew him well but met him a good few times, a really nice bloke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
old timer123 367 Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 benn collapsed as he knew he would be tested i m o an benn likes his juice if truths known Yeah and the USA orchastrated the planes into the twin towers not al Quaeda mmm hmmmm really lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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