Bosun11 537 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 fell terrier , it allways finds its way back to the shithouse window sill . i know its not fasionable to like plummer books but i dont care lol Thats you and me both then Goaty... It's flawed but no one has come close... Oh yer, mine lives in the same speck as yours..! its flawed it what respect mate ??? dont think plummer really lied in that book in fact i didnt have him down as an out an out liar just a bit of an arse really but he got a lot of flack Flawed in that to have left out both Gouldy and Brightmoor, at that time, was/is a big mistake. You only have to look at the years after and all written about Smithy's pedigree which could have been cleared up. Brightmoor does get a mention or two in the book but only to say where certain dogs were at the time, shame because Bill was breeding some damn good dogs in the 's and thier inclusion would have been facinating reading. But legend has it that Plummer and Ken had a bit of history and Bill ran him off his place..? I would also say that the inclusions of Ped breeders let the book down. True, some of that early blood ended up in some lines but as a whole the modern Fell Terrier owes little to this, maybe more time and page space woulde of been better suited to others? All that said and I still think its the best out there, Plummer really coverd the subject both in depth and at length, no other terrier has been covered so well and i'll stick by my first post that no one else has come close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,772 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 "Work them Hard..." for me is the yardstick. Look at the current/recent crop of writers that are out there though. We're spoilt for choice, both in books and also in the magazine. I'd love to see Peter Tulip write more as I always enjoyed his articles in EDRD. Compared to when I was a kid there's a glut of authors these days, some good; some not so good and some outstanding - David Harcombe, Colin Didriksen, Phil Lloyd, Jonathon Darcy, Welsh All Black, John Glover, Dave Bezzant, Sean Frain, Paul Dooley, Patrick Burns, Daniele Piacentini (sp?), Penny Taylor, Suffolk Bill....I could go on. It's rapidly approaching saturation point and in a crowded market only the best will survive and endure. I'll leave it up to you to categorise the names above into good, bad or indifferent. Broadening the subject slightly to lurchers as well as terriers, there's no better raconteur for my money than Lloydy, with Didriksen coming not far behind. And look at the sheer quality that Darcy is producing! I took delivery of the deer book last week and once I cut through the cardboard, I sat at my dining table and flicked through that book in awe of the total package. Truly astonishing. The goalposts keep moving and standards are getting higher and higher for everyone. I haven't seen Phil's new book yet, but a close friend of mine received an early copy and he usually gives the books he receives free to me, but when I spoke to him about this one, I was told "hands off - this is a keeper!" That speaks volumes to me. Forgot Dooley, a very good writer indeed and of course PL.........That deluded pagen magpies supporter RC can scribble a bit too when he pulls his finger out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 would have liked to have seen books by ken gould and bert gripton .... Do you mean books about..? A book about Gripton would certainly be well worth a read, think Harcombe was going to write one once but maybe it's too late now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,757 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 For me it's work them hard I enjoyed it a lot! I also enjoy Edrd mag some of the writers hold me more than others . I also got the nick Stevens book , didn't enjoy that as much I sort of lost interest towards the end ! Jmho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Anything by harcombe is usually worth a read not really worth reading anything else. I never got the fascination of reading page after page of what someone else has done. That's all well and good, but what have you done, personally? In most cases the answer us very little. Harcombe is a wealth if knowledge and I enjoy reading his stuff. FTB 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 would have liked to have seen books by ken gould and bert gripton .... Do you mean books about..? A book about Gripton would certainly be well worth a read, think Harcombe was going to write one once but maybe it's too late now. barrie wade could do a book on bg ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 anything by sean frain, that man has done more digging than any other writer and thats including dave harcombe some reason i dont beleive you mate but if you can prove me wrong please do if your not in the know then you don't need to know mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,253 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 anything by sean frain, that man has done more digging than any other writer and thats including dave harcombe some reason i dont beleive you mate but if you can prove me wrong please do if your not in the know then you don't need to know mate Only read 'The Patterdale Terrier' and was biggest waste of a tenner ever, are you really saying he has done more digging than any other writer? dont come across like that in the one book I read... Anyway.... I keep meaning to get myself a copy of 'A Terriers Vocation' read it a long while back and think it worthy of shelf space. Another vintage one is Dan Russell's 'Working Terriers' a good read. 'Hunt & Working Terriers' By Lucas is a must read imho. Favourite modern book on/about terriers I own is 'Terriers & Terriermen' by Broady, I dug with a few people who have dug/hunted with fellas in the book and have enjoyed them telling me more about the dogs, the men & the sport theyve had alongside them. I remember someone once saying "books used to be written by the few and read by the many, nowadays they are written by the many and read by the few" reminds me of another thread on here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Any Harcombe book will take some beating..............must admit a few quality writers in edrd be it lurchers or terriers. Work them hard, treat them like heroes is a good read.......emphasis on the read !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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