R. Docks 154 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 All this talk about a 'kid' and the 'lad', what we are talking about here is a 19 year old MAN. He had no respect for the conductor, as could be seen by his attitude. He had no respect for the other passengers, as could be heard by his language. He had no respect for authority, as could be seen when he refused to leave the train. OK, the chap that helped the conductor by ejected the man ended up by chucking him onto his head; but the whole situation was caused by the man refusing to leave the train when asked to do so. Aye. . . but he'd bought a bloody ticket! Would you have said, ok sir, well i did actually buy a ticket, but there seems to have been some mix up, so i will just toddle a long now and jump off the train, sorry for the hassle??? 'No respect for authority' Since when is respect for 'authority' a good thing If he had a valid ticket then he had plenty of opportunity to produce it when asked. That whole situation probably started quite a long time before someone started filming. And btw, most people think that a healthy respect for authority is a good thing. It's what society is based on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Apparentley held the train up for 15 minutes, being stuck on there felt like an hour I expect. Tempers and desicion making are bound to be suspect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 All this talk about a 'kid' and the 'lad', what we are talking about here is a 19 year old MAN. He had no respect for the conductor, as could be seen by his attitude. He had no respect for the other passengers, as could be heard by his language. He had no respect for authority, as could be seen when he refused to leave the train. OK, the chap that helped the conductor by ejected the man ended up by chucking him onto his head; but the whole situation was caused by the man refusing to leave the train when asked to do so. Aye. . . but he'd bought a bloody ticket! Would you have said, ok sir, well i did actually buy a ticket, but there seems to have been some mix up, so i will just toddle a long now and jump off the train, sorry for the hassle??? 'No respect for authority' Since when is respect for 'authority' a good thing If he had a valid ticket then he had plenty of opportunity to produce it when asked. That whole situation probably started quite a long time before someone started filming. And btw, most people think that a healthy respect for authority is a good thing. It's what society is based on. Your first two points i agree with. The third is a little shaky Society is based upon a respect for authority. Society is based upon toeing the line, and doing what 'the man' says? As Oscar Wilde said "Disobediance is mans original virtue, it is through disobediance, that progress is made". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Apparentley held the train up for 15 minutes, being stuck on there felt like an hour I expect. Tempers and desicion making are bound to be suspect. Yes mate, no doubt, but i just think that 'big man' was maybe a little bit too forceful in his actions, it could have been sorted out a little less violently maybe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Apparentley held the train up for 15 minutes, being stuck on there felt like an hour I expect. Tempers and desicion making are bound to be suspect. Yes mate, no doubt, but i just think that 'big man' was maybe a little bit too forceful in his actions, it could have been sorted out a little less violently maybe? If you knew you'd bought a ticket would you not look for it before shouting your innocence.........it was found in his bag at home, why couldn't he find it on the train. He dosen't want the guy charged either apparentley..........touch of guilt maybe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 hope you guys who respect authority ae taking heed the next time a keeper feels your collar.ive heard all the bulshit on here about lads saying they will burn his house down or slash his tires.after all he is only doing a job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Apparentley held the train up for 15 minutes, being stuck on there felt like an hour I expect. Tempers and desicion making are bound to be suspect. Yes mate, no doubt, but i just think that 'big man' was maybe a little bit too forceful in his actions, it could have been sorted out a little less violently maybe? If you knew you'd bought a ticket would you not look for it before shouting your innocence.........it was found in his bag at home, why couldn't he find it on the train. He dosen't want the guy charged either apparentley..........touch of guilt maybe. Apparently he bought two singles (cos they are cheaper), and was given two of the same singles, rather than one for each way. He had probably given the first in on the trip there, and so was giving the second ticket he had bought then, and what he was saying was 'I DID f*****g pay', which he did. He'd had a few drinks, and was being made to look like a wee ned who was dodging the fair, in front of a train full of folk who were all staring at him like he'd just raped a kitten. To be fair, i think i might swear, when talking to the ticket bloke, who was clearly trying to stir it up with the other passengers rather than deal with the guy himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 hope you guys who respect authority ae taking heed the next time a keeper feels your collar.ive heard all the bulshit on here about lads saying they will burn his house down or slash his tires.after all he is only doing a job Same with the hunting ban . . . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mangy1983 51 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) I don't know if it is different with trains but l do know that return tickets are cheaper than 2 singles on buses so why would someone buy 2 singles to save money? Edited December 14, 2011 by mangy1983 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't know if it is different with trains but l do know that return tickets are cheaper than 2 singles on buses so why would someone buy 2 singles to save money? Off peak two singles are often cheaper than a return. . . no idea why, but its so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Apparentley held the train up for 15 minutes, being stuck on there felt like an hour I expect. Tempers and desicion making are bound to be suspect. Yes mate, no doubt, but i just think that 'big man' was maybe a little bit too forceful in his actions, it could have been sorted out a little less violently maybe? If you knew you'd bought a ticket would you not look for it before shouting your innocence.........it was found in his bag at home, why couldn't he find it on the train. He dosen't want the guy charged either apparentley..........touch of guilt maybe. Apparently he bought two singles (cos they are cheaper), and was given two of the same singles, rather than one for each way. He had probably given the first in on the trip there, and so was giving the second ticket he had bought then, and what he was saying was 'I DID f*****g pay', which he did. He'd had a few drinks, and was being made to look like a wee ned who was dodging the fair, in front of a train full of folk who were all staring at him like he'd just raped a kitten. To be fair, i think i might swear, when talking to the ticket bloke, who was clearly trying to stir it up with the other passengers rather than deal with the guy himself. 2 singles cheaper??????? No can't be right can it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't know if it is different with trains but l do know that return tickets are cheaper than 2 singles on buses so why would someone buy 2 singles to save money? Off peak two singles are often cheaper than a return. . . no idea why, but its so. That wouldn't work..........how could they tell you hadn't already bought the ticket and used it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't know if it is different with trains but l do know that return tickets are cheaper than 2 singles on buses so why would someone buy 2 singles to save money? Off peak two singles are often cheaper than a return. . . no idea why, but its so. there weird how they sell thier tickets.one giy other month got of his train a stop early and they tried to get him charged as the ticket should only be for the one destination,id see the point if it was further. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't know if it is different with trains but l do know that return tickets are cheaper than 2 singles on buses so why would someone buy 2 singles to save money? Off peak two singles are often cheaper than a return. . . no idea why, but its so. That wouldn't work..........how could they tell you hadn't already bought the ticket and used it. they puch a hole in it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Apparentley held the train up for 15 minutes, being stuck on there felt like an hour I expect. Tempers and desicion making are bound to be suspect. Yes mate, no doubt, but i just think that 'big man' was maybe a little bit too forceful in his actions, it could have been sorted out a little less violently maybe? If you knew you'd bought a ticket would you not look for it before shouting your innocence.........it was found in his bag at home, why couldn't he find it on the train. He dosen't want the guy charged either apparentley..........touch of guilt maybe. Apparently he bought two singles (cos they are cheaper), and was given two of the same singles, rather than one for each way. He had probably given the first in on the trip there, and so was giving the second ticket he had bought then, and what he was saying was 'I DID f*****g pay', which he did. He'd had a few drinks, and was being made to look like a wee ned who was dodging the fair, in front of a train full of folk who were all staring at him like he'd just raped a kitten. To be fair, i think i might swear, when talking to the ticket bloke, who was clearly trying to stir it up with the other passengers rather than deal with the guy himself. 2 singles cheaper??????? No can't be right can it. Genuinly it is mate. Mad world that we live in, but i remember doing exactly the same when i lived in scotland. Off peak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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