JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 I had a big post written out, then highlighted it to copy into another forum and accidentally pasted something else in it's place and couldn't Undo This comes from several threads I've been reading on several forums, and a chat I had with a friend today. One thing I would like to be left out of this is the politics of the Euro, the EU, the UK, the ROI and any other country, start another thread for them please The scenario is this. You have X amount of a currency which is in danger of collapse, let's say a few thousand. You want to convert that paper money into something tangible that after the shit hit's the fan that would have retained it's value through that messy transition. We first talked of Gold, but I think gold is in a bubble at the moment. Too many are investing in it, it's like property was 10 years ago, sure the value can only go up (until Italy or some other large country dumps it's thousands of tons of gold onto the market to raise cash). We did agree that smaller value gold coins would be easier to dispose of post currency collapse than large value coins, better odds on people having small sums of money to spend than large. So Gold was ruled out. Then we moved onto foreign currency. But, paper money is all about confidence, if a major world currency were to collapse that collapse would have major repercussions for economies all around the world, from those economies that make things like China, to consumer/service economies like the EU/USA. There is also the question of what type of limits, charges and taxes would be applied to foreign currency conversion post currency collapse, which could be punitive. I don't think foreign currency is as good a bet as is made out. So that was ruled out. Farm land was mentioned, and I think there is some merit to that idea. Food can be grown, animals raised, allotments leased out, there are options there. But, there is a large problem in that land isn't always sold quickly if one needed to liquidate that asset and turn it into new currency paper money for any reason. Two other suggestions were whiskey and ammunition. I don't believe whiskey would run short but it may retain it's value, I'm just not sure, it doesn't feel certain to me. Ammunition has the big problem of legality, one can only hold so many rounds in this jurisdiction, BUT, even with things going well importers are sometimes slow and there have been ammo shortages. I'd not like to have a house fire storing either! We didn't settle on any item or items being a good idea to date. What we did agree was that lower to medium value items, which keep in good/perfect condition over time and are easily converted back into currency would be a good idea. What would you think those items to be? That is the question Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roxyboi 64 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Darcys books 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigdog Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 cocaine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Food ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Which reminds me, drugs did come up and some impressive figures were even mentioned Don't think I'd fancy the free B&B if caught mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigdog Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 i Which reminds me, drugs did come up and some impressive figures were even mentioned Don't think I'd fancy the free B&B if caught mind if the currency collapsed, they couldnt hold ye. how would they pay the guards, garda and army Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 dressed stone if yo have some were to store it [bANNED TEXT] if ever theirs a building boom again the price of it will rocket Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddybarr 77 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 if its only a few thousand i wouldn't worry ( if you do want to invest i would go with art work and get specialist advice) if you have millions that's a whole different ball game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Some foods may not be a bad idea. I wasn't so much thinking complete society collapse mind, but currency collapse which is less serious than total chaos in society so rather than gangs roaming the streets etc, think high inflation, high unemployment, increasing poverty, current debts held in old more valuable currency whilst deposits converted to much less valuable new currency. Dressed stone may be hard to shift if that boom were not to come to pass? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Another idea may be some motor oils, spark plus, and other such service related motor wear and tear items. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Keswick 119 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) Worried about the Euro? Some metals are worth a fair packet at the moment and seem to be climbing in value, mostly due to the high demand in China. Copper and aluminium etc are or certainly were fetching a decent price. Edited December 11, 2011 by John Keswick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Worried about the Euro? Some metals are worth a fair packet at the moment and seem to be climbing in value, mostly due to the high demand in China. Copper and aluminium etc are or certainly were fetching a decent price. Personally? No, I'm not worried and am happy to have my meagre savings in the bank. I only ask as we had an interesting conversation trying to figure it out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 fags or drugs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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DIDO.1 22,838 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Can you store coke for a longish period though? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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