robwelsh 354 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 my old man has had many whippets over the yrs, and if he heard you say this he'd go stir crazy, he says what alot of others has said about whippets on here, agile, speed and prey drive is tops,and not alot of people give the respect they deserve, because they "dont look hard", so if theres so many people thinking diffrent to you, it might just be the fact youve seen shitty show bred whippets, just my opinion 1 Quote Link to post
BLACKHEART 61 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Nice dogs lads , do they have the size to be single handed dogs , or is it a bit of a battle ? Its not the size of the dog its the size of its heart And yes not all but the right ones entered properly. wrong combo of both if they aint got the size cant do job in hand. heart obviosly helps them stay/ commit How big does a dog have to be to handle a fox which on average is say 14lb's.....a small bull/whip is going to be double that. If you get a dog thats bred well you'd be surprised what they're capable of.A lot of these dogs are popular these days because they don't look like the dick extensions that a lot of bull x lads crave..........in this day and age with this stupid ban, out of sight out of mind is the key.A little bull/whippet is not going to attract the attention that a big feck off bull/grey is. COULDNT AGREE WITH YOU MORE-GET A LOT MORE PERMISSION WITH SMALL DOG-GOT BED/GREYXBULL/WHIP-22TTS-SHOWN UP MANY A BIG BULLX-WILL DO ANYTHING YOU SHOW HER AND MORE-ITS DOWN TO THE BREEDING AND ENTERING-ALOT OF THESE BULL X S ARE NOMORE THAN A FASHION ACCESSORY LIKE THE f****n ROIDS MOST OF THESE WATERBOYS TAKE.REMEMBER BOYS YOU CANT PUT MUSCLE ON YOUR CHINS :tongue2: 2 Quote Link to post
BLACKHEART 61 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 my old man has had many whippets over the yrs, and if he heard you say this he'd go stir crazy, he says what alot of others has said about whippets on here, agile, speed and prey drive is tops,and not alot of people give the respect they deserve, because they "dont look hard", so if theres so many people thinking diffrent to you, it might just be the fact youve seen shitty show bred whippets, just my opinion WELL SAID MATE- Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 another one aswell, "if it ain doing it by 8 months its gone" regular occurence round my way lol Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 i never really understood the bull/whippet. IMO you are crossing a strong corageous dog (bull) with the (in a lot of cases) the pussyiest weedy thin boned thin skinned dog. i understand what the logic is..... best of both but i think in a lot of cases you end up with the worst of both a dog that is undersized for a lot of things and hass the bull so watered down by the whippet blood. im sure a lot of theis is due to the fact people use jank whippet blood un tested either because they dont have the resourses to get genuine blood or are just breeding for looks. compared to the bullx ghound the bullx whippet is a far far outclassed by the bullxghound. can anyone who works these dogs (bullx whippet) tell what they are trying to acheive that couldnt get from bullxghound? if its speed and agility given by the whippet this can easily be achieved with bullx ghound if you selective breed and of course the biggest part use the best blood. I'm not wanting to start an argument, but i'm not sure you have seen any decent whippets if you think they are 'pussys' or 'weedy'. I admit, they don't have the best skin / jacket. But my experiance of them is that they have a far bigger heart and far more grit than their size would suggest. The biiggest problem i have with mine is too high prey drive. They certainly don't seen to take into account their own size when chucking themselves at bigger quarry. I get what you are saying about the advantages of a bull x grey, and i think that if you wanted a pure foxing machine (pre-ban) you would do best looking at line bred bull/grey or bull/grey/whip out of tested dogs. However if we are talking first x's - how mant greyhound out there are being regularly worked and tested in the field? It's a lot easier to find a whippet that has been worked hard, taken a variety of game, and tested in the field. They tend to have good feet, good pace, decent stamina etc. The right whippet and the right bull, and you could have some very hand animals, that would be good if later put back to a pure whippet, or back to a bull x grey. jmo. too high prey drive. joke so if pre ban you faced it and faced it tested hard it wouldnt feel the pain. come on man its a whippet Did i say it wouldnt feel the pain? NO. What i said, was that with my dog, one of the problems i have is that his prey drive is very high, and he chucks himself at / into stuff that he probably shouldnt - leading to vets bills and time layed up, that i could do without. Hence, i would argue against him being a 'pussy'. Quote Link to post
toffee 76 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Edited December 14, 2011 by toffee Quote Link to post
toffee 76 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) again Edited December 15, 2011 by toffee Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 looks slightly bigger than a fox to me, that is if you wanted it for that purpose, pre ban of course Quote Link to post
mintstick999 485 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Here's a couple. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 a part from a bit speed and balls what does the whippet cross bull bring as an all rround hunting dog they got plenty running wind, good feet, to run on any land good ,coat for hard winters , easy to train , saw one in summer he was anice turned out dog but very fine coated , wht do use guys like about them Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) a part from a bit speed and balls what does the whippet cross bull bring as an all rround hunting dog they got plenty running wind, good feet, to run on any land good ,coat for hard winters , easy to train , saw one in summer he was anice turned out dog but very fine coated , wht do use guys like about them you dont make sense; youve summed up a good alround dog, in your opinion, and then ask people who have them,what they like about them :S youve just stated the perfect allrounder :/ 1.good feet 2.plenty of oomf 3.runs on any type of land..good 4.coat for winter..but sometimes not lol 5.easy to train ..i mean who wants a flat footed slow coach of a dog who cant run on anything than sand who changes his coat and is too thick to know what dog shit is :S Edited December 14, 2011 by robwelsh Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 a part from a bit speed and balls what does the whippet cross bull bring as an all rround hunting dog they got plenty running wind, good feet, to run on any land good ,coat for hard winters , easy to train , saw one in summer he was anice turned out dog but very fine coated , wht do use guys like about them you dont make sense; youve summed up a good alround dog, in your opinion, and then ask people who have them,what they like about them :S youve just stated the perfect allrounder :/ 1.good feet 2.plenty of oomf 3.runs on any type of land..good 4.coat for winter..but sometimes not lol 5.easy to train ..i mean who wants a flat footed slow coach of a dog who cant run on anything than sand who changes his coat and is too thick to know what dog shit is :S Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 got a bull x whippet pup myself, ballsy as feck, strong for her size, can jump a decent height, powerfull jaw strength and good pace, only 9months old, shes 16tts which is rather small but if she does the job she does the job, good little busher at times, need to really nail down and sort her out for next season tho, few pictures here 1 Quote Link to post
h tomlin 11 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 pups are shaping up nicely pbrookes,can remember when you put up you had lined yer bitch and was thinking then they would be handy, i was wondering how they were coming on only last week, but couldnt find the thread or remember your usernames, any better pics mate, as its a cross im interested in, cheers HF Quote Link to post
h tomlin 11 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I got me pup of p Brookes it's the best lurcher x I've had and I've had a few good uns over the years but this little pup keeps coming on like he is and I'll b over the moon when he mature he enters any cover hunts like a hound and very quick yes I think Paul got this bang on my lads got one too their a credit to the breeder well done Paul top man Quote Link to post
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