fit to eat?

[Caprelous 217]

there was a program on channel 4 called a guide to penny pinching or something like that and a guy on there lived off road kill, birds squrillel deer rabbits hares ect. he looked healthy

 

When I was a lad, we often eat deer that had been hit by cars, the question in this case was weather the chemicals whizzing around its body, after the accident and before it death would have ruined it.

 

I am guessing, that an injured deer that is then tracked by a dog and dispatched, would also experience the same chemical dump.

 

Out of interest, are deer that have been killed in this way allowed to enter the commercial food chain?

 

 

NO

[tegater 789]

there was a program on channel 4 called a guide to penny pinching or something like that and a guy on there lived off road kill, birds squrillel deer rabbits hares ect. he looked healthy

 

When I was a lad, we often eat deer that had been hit by cars, the question in this case was weather the chemicals whizzing around its body, after the accident and before it death would have ruined it.

 

I am guessing, that an injured deer that is then tracked by a dog and dispatched, would also experience the same chemical dump.

 

Out of interest, are deer that have been killed in this way allowed to enter the commercial food chain?

 

 

NO

 

Without trying to sound really ignorant then, as I have only been used to open hill stalking, why do so many roe talkers take a dog with them then. I know it is to track an injured deer, but are you saying that, that deer can only be consumed by the shooter, because I know of loads of cases, where the carcass does go into the commercial market, having been tracked down by a dog and dispatched by the stalker.

 

 

[Caprelous 217]

there was a program on channel 4 called a guide to penny pinching or something like that and a guy on there lived off road kill, birds squrillel deer rabbits hares ect. he looked healthy

 

When I was a lad, we often eat deer that had been hit by cars, the question in this case was weather the chemicals whizzing around its body, after the accident and before it death would have ruined it.

 

I am guessing, that an injured deer that is then tracked by a dog and dispatched, would also experience the same chemical dump.

 

Out of interest, are deer that have been killed in this way allowed to enter the commercial food chain?

 

 

NO

 

Without trying to sound really ignorant then, as I have only been used to open hill stalking, why do so many roe talkers take a dog with them then. I know it is to track an injured deer, but are you saying that, that deer can only be consumed by the shooter, because I know of loads of cases, where the carcass does go into the commercial market, having been tracked down by a dog and dispatched by the stalker.

 

Sorry I misunderstood your question I thought you was referring to a dog bringing a deer down during a pursuit that is not an acceptable way of venison entering the food chain.

 

 

If you shoot a deer after observing it prior to the shot and runs into cover and lies up and you use a dog to track it to where the deer has stiffened up then dispatch the wounded beast humanely by accepted means ,then yes the animal may be placed into the food chain and before you pose the question yes it does contain a raised level of chemicals within its blood stream,but to a lesser degree this is why stalkers train to place with accuracy to reduce this event from taking place but should /when it does to minimise stress levels in the injured animal

 

No killing of an animal is stress free there are situations that if a bullet is placed inbetween the heart and cutting the spine in a very high heart shot /spine death is instantaneous and no such stress takes place.

[tegater 789]

there was a program on channel 4 called a guide to penny pinching or something like that and a guy on there lived off road kill, birds squrillel deer rabbits hares ect. he looked healthy

 

When I was a lad, we often eat deer that had been hit by cars, the question in this case was weather the chemicals whizzing around its body, after the accident and before it death would have ruined it.

 

I am guessing, that an injured deer that is then tracked by a dog and dispatched, would also experience the same chemical dump.

 

Out of interest, are deer that have been killed in this way allowed to enter the commercial food chain?

 

 

NO

 

Without trying to sound really ignorant then, as I have only been used to open hill stalking, why do so many roe talkers take a dog with them then. I know it is to track an injured deer, but are you saying that, that deer can only be consumed by the shooter, because I know of loads of cases, where the carcass does go into the commercial market, having been tracked down by a dog and dispatched by the stalker.

 

Sorry I misunderstood your question I thought you was referring to a dog bringing a deer down during a pursuit that is not an acceptable way of venison entering the food chain.

 

 

If you shoot a deer after observing it prior to the shot and runs into cover and lies up and you use a dog to track it to where the deer has stiffened up then dispatch the wounded beast humanely by accepted means ,then yes the animal may be placed into the food chain and before you pose the question yes it does contain a raised level of chemicals within its blood stream,but to a lesser degree this is why stalkers train to place with accuracy to reduce this event from taking place but should /when it does to minimise stress levels in the injured animal

 

No killing of an animal is stress free there are situations that if a bullet is placed inbetween the heart and cutting the spine in a very high heart shot /spine death is instantaneous and no such stress takes place.

 

Thanks Stuart, I thought your first answer was a little short. I have no interest in placing this deer in the food chain, and I am sure that years ago none of these questions would have even arisen, and I would have just butchered it. The internet now gives us all so much free and readily available information, I sometimes wonder if we worry to much about things.

 

On the other hand it is nice to read peoples views who are quite clearly passionate about a particular subject.

[dave1372 83]

Must be a shortage of deer around you mate as i would never dream of eating road kill no matter how slight the injury .You never saw the animals behaviour before death as in stalking therefore cannot say whether it was ,on first seeing it,a fit animal or not. I would class the carcass as contaminated and destroy .

 

As the man says, if you haven't observed the behaviour then there could be something wrong with it, unlikely but there is a possibility. At the end of the day it is your call whether you think 'best practice' is there to help or not. :hmm:

[gravel 63]

Bet its 10 times better than shite we get from the super markets, hasnt people heard of mussle enharncing drugs, foot and mouth, Mad cow disease ? or does my memory serve me wrong.

[hellyer189 93]

this may sound niave but what differnce does it make weather the animal is shot or run by dogs?

[Born Hunter 17,775]

this may sound niave but what differnce does it make weather the animal is shot or run by dogs?

 

First time in this section?

[BrianSteven72 369]

this may sound niave but what differnce does it make weather the animal is shot or run by dogs?

in the past ive ate a few that have been run with dogs and others that have been shot cleanly and never noticed any differance in taste

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

During exercise of any sort especially running for your life in any animal there is a build up of lactic acid in the muscles caused by, i think ,the production of adrenaline .The acid being a biproduct .This is what most of us seek to aviod when producing a carcass as it taints the meat and im told affects storage .

[nastybilly 55]

Go for it mate it wont do you no harm and the fact that you did not witness its actions before it died would put you on a par with many many so called deer stalkers who shoot the second a deer steps into a fire brake or clearing. Please lads remember BP is a guide no a set of hard and fast rules or laws.

 

 

goan yourself wireviz ....get skinned cleaned up and in the oven ya big jessies yas...lol...its before my time but what if there was food shortages and lots of poor people about ...oops sorry there is nowadays ..lol..get in there mate and get the neighbours roon for feed

[nastybilly 55]

During exercise of any sort especially running for your life in any animal there is a build up of lactic acid in the muscles caused by, i think ,the production of adrenaline .The acid being a biproduct .This is what most of us seek to aviod when producing a carcass as it taints the meat and im told affects storage .

 

 

the chinese hang live animals so there adrenaline runs ..they recon it makes it taste better ...right enough they dont like girl babies i guess we all do it differant ..lol

[danw 1,748]

During exercise of any sort especially running for your life in any animal there is a build up of lactic acid in the muscles caused by, i think ,the production of adrenaline .The acid being a biproduct .This is what most of us seek to aviod when producing a carcass as it taints the meat and im told affects storage .

 

Lactic acid is a by product of muscles working anaerobically

[kenny14 656]

As I wrote earlier, Bulls were baited not only for sport, but because it supposedly made the meat taste better. Same as in many things, I suppose it's all a matter of preference.

 

Personally I prefer all my meat, including Game, to be fresh, as I think it tastes much better than when hung.

[black lab 3]

I would give it to the dog

 

Or have a big Toilet Roll handy for the Sh-t's :boogy:

 

Wullie.