snoopdog 1,256 Posted December 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 well aint clicker ken over your way snoop??,,, mind you im not over convinced about him,, lot of lads recon he just does the same thing evrytime you go to him. where did you go to watch one yesterday as it wasnt close,,,, was it the north east??? S.D,,, i hear he has a great rep i use ken and have to say he knows his stuff hes been in game forever and we tested him with allsorts and he always come up trumps and cheap the mans a gentregards ken is alright but he aint thourgh enough ...hes to quick ...he finds the obvious but not the niggley bits....it will take clicker 2 or 3 min,s to look over a dog....that aint enough ...dont get me wrong hes a nice bloke.. to be fair hes knocking on a bit now and dont like to be bent over a dog for long...ive used ken a couple of times ... Quote Link to post
albert64 1,882 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 well aint clicker ken over your way snoop??,,, mind you im not over convinced about him,, lot of lads recon he just does the same thing evrytime you go to him. where did you go to watch one yesterday as it wasnt close,,,, was it the north east??? S.D,,, i hear he has a great rep yeh tomo i always knew him as klikin ken,over westhoughton way, alot of lads i know use him but i dont been to him once with a mates dog pulled it about abit and that was that touch wood upto now i've not needed one Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,124 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 i watched richard torr the grey vet spend alot more time on a dog checking it than ken,, as snoop said hes to quik,, Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 use a lady have to travell a bit but well worth it ,she does all the local greyhounds has did her farther before her ,tweaking them up once a fortnight ,just a part of the dogs maintainance in the running season.atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
wi11ow 2,657 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 i watched richard torr the grey vet spend alot more time on a dog checking it than ken,, as snoop said hes to quik,, hes the worst bone man ever hes f****d some dogs up and then ripped the arse out of you Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,124 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 do you mean ken,,,willow ?? Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I think if you've never used one before then you do not understand their value untill you've witnessed it first hand,a lurchers back only has to be slightly out for it to run all wrong or any joint for that matter,the lad that said "clicker Ken" always does the same thing,well most do as its a test of every joint to identify where the problem lies,I have 2 freinds that can boneset and both are good greyhound men,they run their hands over my dogs whenever I feel somethings not quite right and the difference one good click can make to the performance of a dog has to be seen to be believed,I even took my terrier dog to him when the vet said there was nothing more he could do for him,he was walking backwards with the pain and could'nt bend to sh*t,one trip to my mates and he made me hold him while he stretched and pushed his joint in his spine back in to place,the dog was right as anything and back to his best the day after,a good bonesetter is well worth a trip if your dog is just not right and you can't put your finger on exactly what it is,atb,WM Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,770 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 A good one one is worth there weight in gold ...there must be loads of lads out there .who run dogs and dont use them ...somtimes looking at there dogs and wondering why it isnt running right i.e. catching what it would normally catch but no obvious signs of lamenes or anything else...but you just know theres somthing that aint right .....i would give me right arm to be able to do what they can do..i was watching one yesterday and it unbelieveble how good this man is...if there was one nearer to me that was a good un ..i would latch on to him like you wouldnt beleive ... ..theres no dog tracks round me so hard to find anyone to learn from... shame there isnt any courses you can go on to learn that sort of thing...if anybody knows of any or can get links up to any it would be much appreciated.....i remember one instance where my dog wasnt right a couple of seasons ago ...i took him to the vets and he didnt have a clue ..and gave me some antibiotics and some steroids ..which i still have in my dog first aid cupboard today ..because i wanted a second opinion so took him to a bone and he sorted him ...its a long story ....but basicly he clicked him in.. a few days rest and he was a different dog..... The same man gave me a different whippet. I used to get so frustrated with him choosing his runs, never jumped. No wonder with the amount of stuff wrong with him. After Steve saw him the dog has a huge prey drive and jumps for fun. I really dont know what i would do without him now, his advice is invaluable. And the thing about Steve, he doesnt do it for money, nor for owners, he does it for the dogs Quote Link to post
B.P.R 2,798 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Don't have a clue what a boneman is? Quote Link to post
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Osteopath for dogs Veedub Quote Link to post
graham4877 1,181 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 http://equine-osteopath.co.uk/10.html some people on their Quote Link to post
jamie7344 250 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 everytime you go to ken he says yea shoulder out bit in back and hips out this dog will be short striding, same bollox everytime, old lad i used to do greyhounds for took a dog to him he sed its back hip and shoulder was out and supposedly put um back in , the lad put dog in van got same dog back out took it back to him 20 secs later and he sed same shite lol............paul evans at oldham is the best i've been to he's a proper vet Quote Link to post
budgie123 163 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I think many people are kidding themselves including me when we go to these so called bone men. I have used grehound vets Plunkit Devil first then Dennis Beary who i believed was trianed by Plunkit and Richard Torr. When you watch any of these check a dog it has to been seen and the lenght of time taken to check the dog is significant and they never fail to find the injury, undertake treatment and give superb advice on managing the dog to aid succesfull recovery.The price charged is very different from your pet dog vets. I took a dog to one of these bone men with a toe injury who said the dog was completly sound and he adviced to get it run. I was not happy with the dog and took it to Richard Torr.The dog had damaged ligaments in the toe and a jiont. We all try to save a buck especially in the current climate and there is no doubt these bone men are cheap but you only get what you pay for in this world. This is only my experience and i know a lot of people use these people including some top greyhound trainers so maybe its finding the right man. 1 Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted December 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 everytime you go to ken he says yea shoulder out bit in back and hips out this dog will be short striding, same bollox everytime, old lad i used to do greyhounds for took a dog to him he sed its back hip and shoulder was out and supposedly put um back in , the lad put dog in van got same dog back out took it back to him 20 secs later and he sed same shite lol............paul evans at oldham is the best i've been to he's a proper vet paul evans is a decent runningdog vet .hes seems pretty good with dogs feet too .but he aint a boneman ....never will be...and over the last couple of years paul seems to be getting like the rest of the vets ...only to glad to give you some antibotics or anti inflamtrys ...without giving you a good reason...he also said that my mates bitch was 100% in pup ....and she wasnt....hes gone down in my book .... 1 Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted December 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I think many people are kidding themselves including me when we go to these so called bone men. I have used grehound vets Plunkit Devil first then Dennis Beary who i believed was trianed by Plunkit and Richard Torr. When you watch any of these check a dog it has to been seen and the lenght of time taken to check the dog is significant and they never fail to find the injury, undertake treatment and give superb advice on managing the dog to aid succesfull recovery.The price charged is very different from your pet dog vets. I took a dog to one of these bone men with a toe injury who said the dog was completly sound and he adviced to get it run. I was not happy with the dog and took it to Richard Torr.The dog had damaged ligaments in the toe and a jiont. We all try to save a buck especially in the current climate and there is no doubt these bone men are cheap but you only get what you pay for in this world. This is only my experience and i know a lot of people use these people including some top greyhound trainers so maybe its finding the right man. i think your right its about finding the right man...iam glad i got a good mate who introduced me to the right man,.,he also checked my dog last season ...just a genral pre season check up ...and he didnt find anything wrong with him....so hes honest too. and he certainly isnt in it for the money...or he would see anyone ...and could make a fortune...like i said a good one is worth there weight in gold...imop.. Quote Link to post
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