Hunting Bill challenge

[Stabs 3]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050705/344/fmnam.html

[Lennard 10]

I dearly hope they will have a case...in the European Constitution there is a clausule that states (more or less) "animals have to be treated with respect AND member states have the freedom to deal with animals according to their cultural or historical traditions"...would protect bullfighting, cockfighting (still legal in 2 places) and various forms of hunting.

 

Only...I am not sure whether the UK is involved enough in European affairs to have to hold itself for judgement of the European Central Court...and France and the Netherlands voted NO on the European Constitution referenda so the animal right/use clausule will not come into effect (soon or at all).

 

On the bad news front too: The Green Party in Spain want to make coursing illegal based on the same illiberal and emotional arguments that were used in the UK.

For more info (Spanish though): www.galgoes.com

 

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[fellman 116]

Wouldnt you just love to see the faces of banks,widdocombe,prescott,kaufman,et el.?

If the E.U. over turn this law ill be tuning into bbc news to see their faces....and also be laffing my bollox of at those people haters.

yis fellman

[Guest terrierman666]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050705/344/fmnam.html

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lets all hope this is successful and this government is shown up as the dictatorship it has become cant wait to see foney tony and his pan faced wife [whos the one really running the country] looking like theyve both been f##ked up the arse :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:

[IanB 0]

The hunting with dogs ban never really brought to light the working terrier and lurcher owners who use there dogs to hunt quarry in the uk, they were over shadowed by the fox hunting with hounds, and never really got a mention... the popularity of our sport is huge, from ferreting, shooting, fishing, coursing, etc if we had all stuck together from the start who knows... not only have they banned one of the oldest forms of hunting known to man, on specific quarrys....they have set a deeper rot into the breeds that originate from the little group of islands we know as Great Britain, from the legendary jack russell, the dead game patterdales and lakelands, the steady borders, foxhounds, years of lurcher and running dog breeding all originating with working in mind, used right around the world, but coming from these tiny little islands, we already had a fight keeping the workers alive with show dogs and peddlers tainting the breeds, now the fight grows harder, laws imposed, no longer the hare, pursued by the running dogs, the sight, the excitement of the chase, prevented by a law, a bullet or shot is all that awaits this beautiful animal now, the red coats on horseback hounds in full cry hot on a trail of old mr reynard himself, no longer....... years of tradition and breeding will go because of a corrupt government and a country that doesn't accept our way of life, apart from the minority who have the breeds best interest at heart and will regardless of law, just like there beloved hounds who give them their all, will give it back by keeping them doing whats in their blood...

 

If the eu can even overturn a ban, if? It will come again, as it does with all our rights from choosing to smoke, boxing, horse racing, shooting, fishing there are people out there who would see these all vanish, passed over to the history books…if there is ever a next time and in the future we need to really pull out all the stops..

[Flynn 314]

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[Flynn 314]

a guestimet of 200.000 Lurchers in the country Prolly More, we walked , we marched we demo,d and now look wut we have left...

[Guest terrierman666]

well said Ian B YOU DONT REALISE WHAT YOUVE GOT ,TILL ITS GONE [bANNED TEXT]

[DiStuRBeD 0]

hi guys

 

want to just wish ya's all the best in getting that bullshit law overturned

 

i know if they did it here in australia i'd still do it

[shaun v 3]

its also at the law lords next week.

well said ian

[mouse 282]

lads and lasses forget the law and lets just carry on as [bANNED TEXT] we owe it 2 our dogs and hounds

[brock 11]

well said lads,i hope nobody packs it in,i know me and my mates are going to carry on doing exactly as we did last year,coursing,digging,lamping foxes.Ive spent to much time and effort with the dogs,not to mention how much money ive spent over the years on food,vet bills kennels etc.keep huntig lads,dont give up and FxxK THE BAN !!!

[Flynn 314]

A Crucial Week for Hunting

This week sees three court challenges to the Hunting Act come to an end: one in the House of Lords, and two in the Royal Courts of Justice.

 

By Holly Kirkwood

 

 

 

 

 

Wednesday, July 13 2005

 

Today sees the conclusion of deliberations on three separate challenges to the Hunting Act, although rulings may be some time yet.

 

Firstly the campaign, spearheaded by the Countryside Alliance, to have their case against the validity of the Parliament Act reviewed is being considered by the House of Lords today and tomorrow, after being thrown out of the Court of Appeal in February.

 

The new appeal is brought in the name of three petitioners: John Jackson, Chairman of the Countryside Alliance; Mair Hughes, a blacksmith's wife from Glamorgan, and Patrick Martin, Huntsman of the Oxfordshire-based Bicester with Whaddon Chase Hunt. Sir Sydney Kentridge QC will lead the legal team.

 

Alliance Chief Executive Simon Hart said today: 'The challenge to the Parliament Act is not about hunting - it's about the constitutional arrangements of our country and respect for the law. The judgements from the Administrative Court and the Appeal Court pointed to the great constitutional importance of this case.

 

'This is the final and critical stage of this challenge. If our arguments are rejected by the Lords and they decide that the 1949 Parliament Act is valid, we live in a country which could effectively be governed by a single-chamber legislature, where there are no checks or balances to protect the public and constitution of this country.'

 

The Lords will consider the evidence today and tomorrow and their judgement is expected in the coming weeks. Also today the summing up on another two appeals in the Royal Courts of Justice is due, after it was postponed following Thursday's bombings in London. This is a double-pronged attack which fights the ban citing the Human Rights Act, and, in a separate challenge, says the ban is illegal under European Commission law.

 

The judgements on these cases are also expected in a few weeks, although the final summing up may give some clue as to the outcome. A spokesperson for the Alliance said they are in good spirits, and hope for decency to prevail.

 

'A mature democracy such as ours should safeguard the rights of minorities. It is a sad state of affairs when the Government allows discrimination, prejudice and political expediency to come before principle, evidence and decency, as it has done in forcing through the Hunting Act. It is now down to the courts to protect the human rights of the hunting community and, by extension, those of other minorities,' added Mr Hart.

[F.R. 2]

Best of luck boys, hope it gets put right side up.